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UPS Franchisees Did Not Follow Shareholder Rules

ATLANTA (Blue MauMau) - Norman Black, spokesperson for UPS, said in an interview today that it is clearly and unequivocally wrong that two franchisee shareholders were denied access to last week's UPS shareholder meeting unfairly. Black, who was at the meeting in Wilmington, explained there were at least four franchisee share owners who showed up for the meeting and two of them were admitted because they followed the rules. He said, "They had proof of their stock ownership. That does not mean proof of who you are. It does not mean you can get in by your social security number or your drivers license or a picture ID. Two did so, and two of them didn’t."

Black also explained that those shareholders would not have automatically received an annual report from UPS. He explains that as with many corporations now in an effort to be environmentally conscious as well as even more time responsive to shareholders, UPS uses other methods. He said, "Instead, we send a letter specifically known by the SEC and lawyers as the Letter of Notice and Access. It’s a very common procedure, and not UPS specific, that I’m describing." According to Black, the letter gives shareholders several options. He again explains, "How they can get access to the annual report online, if they want it immediately. How they can get access to a proxy so they can vote online if they want to do it immediately. And, how they can get a printed copy of the report and proxy, if they prefer to kill trees."

But he said it also provides the rules for anyone who would like to personally attend the shareholders meeting in Wilmington. And it notes that no matter if you own one share or a million shares you are welcome to attend the actual meeting. "But, he adds, "be advised that to walk through the doors you will need to bring with you proof that you actually own the shares that you are showing you own on the proxy." Again he states that the two who didn't have proof of ownership were indeed denied entry.

Black also said it was wrong that last year they were allowed entry by giving their social security number and driver's license. "That’s why we went to such pains to make sure they understood that this was going to be enforced this year." Last year he said they got in by barging past their security people after the meeting had started. "That’s how they gained entry. We were not going to make a scene in the middle of our shareholders meeting to try to throw them out." He added, "Particularly since we believed they were shareholders, even though they hadn’t shown proof they were, even though we had the legal right to do so. Black said they were not going to interrupt the meeting and send in security to remove them forcibly. He continued, "So, not only did we not kick them out but we also allowed them to ask questions, even though they were not supposed to be there in terms of following the rules for admittance." But Black said they then made it clear to them that next year they were going to follow the rules. He said they told them, "We want you to come and we want you to attend, but you have to show proof of stock ownership. That’s all we ask. And then, lo and behold, they show up again this year not following the rules."

In addressing the question asked about the litigation appearing for the first time this year in the UPS annual report, Black confirmed that Teri McClure, general counsel and secretary of the corporation, explained that every piece of litigation against UPS is reviewed every year. "The reason it was included this year was simply that there had been new developments that moved the case along, so the UPS legal department decided that it had now reached a point in its litigation history, and should be referenced in the 10 K. That was her answer."

Black also stated that he does not view this as much of a newsworthy story. He said when you are talking about a $50 billion corporation that welcomes any and every shareholder who wants to attend the annual meeting and gives them very clear rules to follow, and then, germane to this article, two know to follow the rules and two don't; two are admitted in a heartbeat and two aren't, he questions what's the big story? He said, "Only if you are suggesting that we are discriminating against two shareholders who didn't follow the rules . . . out of the billion plus shares of stock that we had outstanding that two shareholders didn’t follow the rules, I do not see that."

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Paul Steinberg's picture

Shareholder meeting

A private corporation is not a government agency, and is not required to have any public meetings. The shareholder meeting is for owners (shareholders) of the corporation, and simply showing a driver's license does not mean that you are an owner of the corporation.

It is true that there are lists of shareholders. However (and I am admittedly rusty on this) many people have shares held in "street name" and when I used to look at shareholder lists you would see that Merrill Lynch owned a zillion shares but you would not see who the beneficial owner(s) of the shares was.

As to what litigation or potential litigation needs to be disclosed in the Annual Report, this is governed not simply by statute but also SEC guidance. It is most often not a bright-line test. And simply because a matter rises to the level where the corporation determines that disclosure is advisable or mandatory under SEC requirements does not imply that the corporation is not going to actively litigate an issue.

Paul Steinberg
Franchisee Attorney, New York City, Ph: 212-529-5400

Yeh, right, Norman

So the initial answer that the answer would have to come from the investor relations department was just a stall.

That was like 4 days ago, now Mr. Black gives an answer alleged to be based on his personal knowledge and his being at the meeting and observing what happened last year and this year.

If any of that was true, why could he not answer the question last week?

Is he willing to say that every other shareholder in attendance at the meeting, including himself and Scott Davis had proof of ownership of their shares and presented it at registration. Sorry, Mr. Black, you have failed the red face test, I do not believe you!

And the statement about two out of a billion plus is just plain dumb. Would he deny that 99.9% of the shareholders simply did not spend the money to travel to Wilmington. Sometimes a little common sense might help! Can he prove that the two they barred actually received the letter of notice and access. And did he really tell them all about this at the last meeting as he implies here.

It is obvious that UPS did not want them there and was using a very weak excuse to exclude them. I know the two people involved and I cannot believe that they would not have brought the proof if they had a clue that it would be required.

Janet, please contact Joe and Jim for a rebuttal!

Gee, I guess Norm didn't

Gee, I guess Norm didn't like that publicity huh?

What happened to the standard, "We intend to vigorously defend these lawsuits"?? 

Back to Spokesperson School.

"And, how they can get a printed copy of the report and proxy, if they prefer to kill trees."

Music to a UPS Franchisees ears! Trying to make ends meet in a difficult economy. Invested thousands in copiers. Now...a new marketing campaign from UPS!

Want to kill more trees? Buy more color copies at only 39 cents!

Want to kill less trees? Don't bother printing out and shipping that document overnight...just scan and email it. email is free and you'll also save a shipping box!

That comment is so brilliant. Want to bet that Mr. Black has never stepped foot in a UPS Store/MBE?

Kill Trees

Mr Black must know that UPS does reports electronically so that it is CHEAPER FOR UPS. UPS obviously thinks it is nothing that its shareholders have to proactively attempt to get there shareholders report rather than the onis being UPS to deliver it to the shareholder.

So now UPS shareholders requiring UPS to fulfill its obligation to shareholders insults them by saying the are "tree killers" Well it looks like UPS has no trouble gussling up those gallons of diesel which is NON RENEWABLE. NOR sponsoring a horse for their brand awareness. Many consider horse racing cruel to the horse as is witnessed by the race horse that had to be put down in front of the whole world. Go for it. UPS. DOES UPS EVER OFFER A CONTRIBUTION TO ANY CAUSE THAT THEY DON'T SPLASH IT ALL OVER IN NEWS RELEASES. LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME. 1 million in relief but the small prints says 500,000 and services in kind make up the rest. you can be sure that the 500,000 services in kind will be upcharged!!!!!! that is our UPS we have come to know and love.

Re:Kill Trees

UPS should have a singular focus to make money for its shareholers that is why it exists. 

The Truth Shall Set You Free!

TIF

Focus

TIF,

UPS could have increased their bottom line(maybe not a lot but better in the long run) if they treated P& S stores more as partners. They would have thousands of cheering owners and employees pushing their products. Instead they did a short term approach to profits, so overall was that looking out for investors interest. Example: Toyota #1 car maker better investor return with focus on quality, service(longterm view) GM #2 car maker(short term view) but learning from their mistakes. Always better to focus on the long run.

Codfish

Re: Focus

Bacala - First of all franchisees are not "partners" they are franchisees. 

Second UPS has their work cut out for them to make UPS/MBE work.

Third if you are unhappy as a franchisee sell, if you are resolved to make your franchise work then work with your franchisor to do so. These silly lawsuits are a distraction for you and UPS.

The Truth Shall Set You Free!

TIF

TIF, you are an idiot

Same old crap, over and over, like some kind on Nazi that thinks if you repeat a lie loud enough and long enough, people will believe it.

We ain't buying what your selling, so give it up with your constant hypocracy. The only truth in franchising in your posts is the absolute truth that you are clueless and are less than truthful.

Give it up!

Barbara Jorgensen's picture

See TIF

I am not the only one that calls you names. Maybe you didn't learn as a child that good attention is more fun than bad attention. Sometimes people never learn this. Hopefully by the time you are in your middle 40's you'll learn this because you are missing out on the fun side of life by not acknowledging this problem you have.

Re: See TIF

DoDil you continue to make so many assumptions with no facts as evidence. You have no way of knowing how old I might be yet you presume my age something less than 40 years. 

The Truth Shall Set You Free!

TIF

Barbara Jorgensen's picture

I never gave your age, I am assuming

but I have discussed your age with others. You are young yet sometimes you sound much older. It has been fun trying to figure out your age. I figure late thirties or early fourties.

TIF, you are an idiot

Same old crap, over and over, like some kind on Nazi that thinks if you repeat a lie loud enough and long enough, people will believe it.

We ain't buying what your selling, so give it up with your constant hypocracy. The only truth in franchising in your posts is the absolute truth that you are clueless and are less than truthful.

Give it up!

correction

so overall WHO was that looking out for investors BEST interest.

Codfish