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SAN DIEGO (Blue MauMau) - The Chair of the American Association of Franchisees and Dealers, Robert Purvin, says that the organization's accredited franchise agreements should not be seen as an endorsement to buy that franchise.
Here is his interview with the Blue MauMau community.
Blue MauMau: What meaning does the AAFD accredited fair contract have?
Purvin: The meaning is that it is a fair contract and a contract that the AAFD has endorsed as being at least 95% in compliance with the AAFD's Fair Franchising Standards. AAFD Accredited Contract Status is NOT a validation of the business model of a brand. The marketplace goes in and buys something because of the sizzle and forgets there may not be ownership of that sizzle.
Often what happens is when you look into a franchise agreement you find that you didn’t buy anything. McDonald’s owns the real estate. It owns the equipment. You have very limited renewal rights so you don’t pick up value. You may buy a revenue stream for a period of years, which may justify your investment, but the agreement places a franchisee in a very precarious position .
BMM: Franchise owners have written us that they perceive the AAFD accredited fair franchise seal as an endorsement of a fair franchise. In the Cuppy’s Coffee case, we understand that Cuppy’s sold many franchises in which your accredited agreement was marketed with the AAFD trademark as if AAFD endorsed the chain as a great franchise investment.
Purvin: While the AAFD's announcement of Accredited Contract recipients is careful to explain that we are approving the franchise agreement only, our website did not properly distinguish an accredited agreement and the fair franchise seal. Cuppy’s also marketed the accreditation in an unclear way.
Still, I will never claim that having a good contract is a sign to buy. It is simply one thing to check off on a list. You know that the contract treats you equitably. It confers ownership and protects franchisee rights. The thing you are going to invest in is going to give you true investment rights.
BMM: If a franchise owner buys a dog [a loser] of a business, what good is it to him to have a franchise that has an accredited franchise agreement?
Purvin: If you bought into a dog enterprise, you have a right of recourse in your AAFD accredited agreement that a typical agreement does not. I will never claim that having a great contract is a buy sign. Rather, having a bad contract is a "don’t buy’" sign. But having a good contract is, "Okay, I can check that one off and now I can go to the next thing on my checklist on deciding if this is a good deal."
BMM: If the accredited agreement is not enough in deciding a franchise, you must see that many buyers may not see the benefit. Worse yet, the markings can be easily confused by potential buyers as a seal that your organization thinks a franchise is certified by AAFD as a good investment.
Purvin: Let me be crystal clear with this. Having an accredited franchise agreement is only one of eight criteria that the American Association of Franchisees and Dealers has for buying a franchise.
Investors would be ill advised to buy from a company that only has a good contract. Seventy-five percent of franchisees in that system must say that they are satisfied that their franchisor is fair in order for that company to earn the Fair Franchising Seal, which is a step above an Accredited Contract. But the Seal also is not a 'case closed' validation of a franchise investment .
Let’s say you buy a health insurance program and that the health insurance meets the federal standard for the patient’s bill of rights. That doesn’t mean that the health insurance company has adequate reserves to meet its business obligations. But it does honor the patient’s bill of rights. I’m not saying that you should buy health insurance that doesn’t have adequate reserves.
AAFD Accredited Contracts do not deal with whether the concept is good or bad, or that the franchise is well or poorly run. I don’t care how good the business is, an investor must be mindful of the agreement. If you bought into a dog [a loser] enterprise, you have a right of recourse that you wouldn’t have had if that company had a typical contract.
BMM: It looks like your efforts last year to accredit the franchise agreement of new franchise systems has surrounded the AAFD with controversy. Why did you start certifying new franchisors? Was it worth it?
Purvin: The franchise marketplace needs more franchise opportunities that offer fair franchise agreements. Our goal is for investors to insist on AAFD Accredited Contracts when they invest, but the marketplace needs product. Our best opportunity is to encourage newcomers to embrace fair agreements to overcome their lack of a business track record. When the Cuppy’s Coffee concept came into existence, they were a start-up. I had no opinion nor had any ability to render an opinion of the investment worthiness of a start-up company. But Cuppy's was willing to come to market with the fairest contract that we have graded to date. And I hasten to add, given the problems that Cuppy's has faced, Cuppy's franchisees have been well protected by an AAFD Accredited Contract. The company has certainly scrambled, but it is meeting its contractual commitments.
If it weren't for being AAFD Accredited, there would have been no commitments to meet!
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AAFD deserves some blame
Bob states:
'our website did not properly distinguish an accredited agreement and the fair franchise seal. Cuppy’s also marketed the accreditation in an unclear way,'
I believe that myself or someone else mentioned this either to Bob or Michael back in Nov/Dec 2007, however the website didn't change until March 2008 when the new Cuppy's fiasco happened.
Your website showed every recipient as a 'Fair Franchising Recipient', which meant they all went through the approval process, which includes more than just looking at the contract itself.
So let's take an example here:
Prospective franchisee contacts Cuppy's in Jan 2008, and Cuppy's states that they were awarded AAFD approval. you state that they used this in their marketing material. Prospective franchisee goes to AAFD website to verify what they are saying. Sees that Cuppy's is a 'Fair Franchising Recipient', and looks a little deeper. Finds out that before being awarded that seal, that Cuppy's has to 'pass' other tests including a franchisee survey. Prospective franchisee thinks, 'hey, these guys are okay, they passed these 'tests' of the AAFD and they wouldn't just give this award to anyone'. They sign the agreement. Come March, they find out that Cuppy's wasn't an accredited franchisor, but just the contract was.
Now, Bob, don't you think the AAFD dropped the ball here just a little bit? Obviously, the Organization didn't believe that differentiating between the two different AAFD awards was important. It also didn't believe that policing the marketing efforts of one of your member organizations was important.
I think it's time the AAFD (more Bob than Michael or Mufflerman) looked at itself in the mirror and start realizing that they had some liability in this too, and not thinking that they came in and rescued all of these people. I'm just curious what Bob's reaction will be in Cuppy's goes bankrupt and these people don't get their refunds back.
Franchisee Survey? Other tests?
"has to 'pass' other tests including a franchisee survey"
Does anyone have any idea what "tests" and "franchisee surveys" the AAFD puts a franchisor through?
Craig Slavin
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Tests and Surveys
Seal winners have to have a collaborative franchise working relationship, evidenced by a functioning independent franchise association who has significant bargaining power.
Michael Webster PhD LLB
Franchise News
Surveys
Robert Purvin writes: "75% of franchisees in that system must say that they are satisfied that their franchisor is fair in order for that company to earn the Fair Franchising Seal"
Who carries out these surveys? How?
Surveys
the IndFA does it.
Michael Webster PhD LLB
Franchise News
Website Change
The change to the website is ongoing, and Cuppy's was incorrectly identified with the Seal recepients at the Spring Meeting.
Michael Webster PhD LLB
Franchise News
Re: Website Change
http://www.bluemaumau.org/separating_good_franchises_from_bad#comment-30385
Does it take 2-3 months to change a website that incorrectly identifies an accredited contract as a seal recipient? That's 2-3 more months for prospective franchisees to be misled by the AAFD.
Cuppy's victims won't get their money back
whether Cuppy's goes bankrupt or not. There is no bright side to scamming. You can't spray "good faith" perfume on a skunk and pass it off as a puppy.--
Richard Solomon, FranchiseRemedies.com, has over 45 years experience with franchise litigation and crisis management. He is a graduate of The Citadel and The University of Michigan Law School
Cuppy's rips everyone off- do not waste your time
If you are looking to even "think" about investing into this company please do your homework. They are liars and crooks. The new owner of the company won't even return anyone's calls because he is too busy scamming others to get their money and not fixing anything that is wrong with this lame company. Go to unhappyfranchisee.com and please do your share of research on the internet- go to Yahoo and type Cuppy's Coffee Complaints- it is outrageous what they do to people. However they will try to be your best friend- if you get suckered into that- too bad.
Come on Richard
Of course there is a bright side to scamming. The scammers love it, especially when they have another entity that is still supporting them. Just imagine, they've taken this money from prospective franchisees, paid themselves in some fashion, and then blame it on the loan industry when they can't/won't pay it back, even though their own contract states it. They get the AAFD to back them up, and once they go bankrupt and re-organize, then they'll do it all over again, and they'll still have a 'fair' contract that they and the AAFD will recognize.
i'm curious to see Michael's report, which hopefully will be made available soon, although I don't know what it will end up doing, because it sounds like Bob had already made up his mind.
A Done Deal
"Cuppy's franchisees have been well protected by an AAFD Accredited Contract. The company has certainly scrambled, but it is meeting its contractual commitments." - Purvin
The quote above shows that the chairman has indeed already decided that Cuppy's has honored its contract. It looks like poor Mr. Webster is wasting his time compiling a report on Cuppy's.
Meeting Contractual Commitments
I believe that Bob's remarks are not helpful at this stage.
Michael Webster PhD LLB
Franchise News
Understatement of the Day Award goes to...
"I believe that Bob's remarks are not helpful at this stage."
Foot. Mouth. Shoot. Reload. Repeat.
"I will never claim that having a great contract is a buy sign. Rather, having a bad contract is a ‘don’t buy’ sign. But having a good contract is “ok, I can check that one off and now I can go to the next thing on my check list on deciding if this is a good deal?”
This makes sense. Certain things are expected. A protected trademark. An operations manual. Initial training. It would seem silly to give an award just for having those things. The irrelevance of contract accreditation as an award is compellingly argued here. You're right... a list of the worst contracts would be much more useful to prospective franchisees.
"Having an accredited franchise agreement is only one of eight criteria that the American Association of Franchisees and Dealers has for buying a franchise."
1. "primarily interested in distributing quality products and services"
2. "dedicated to franchising as its primary mechanism of product and service distribution."
3. "produce and market quality goods and services"
4. "well accepted trademark."
5. "well-established, well-designed marketing system"
6. "good relationships with its franchisees."
7. "sales and earnings projections which demonstrate an attractive return"
8. "supports the AAFD's Franchisee Bill of Rights and agrees to respect these rights."
???
"...given the problems that Cuppy's has faced, Cuppy's franchisees have been well protected by an AAFD Accredited Contract. The company has certainly scrambled, but it is meeting its contractual commitments.
If it weren't for being AAFD Accredited, there would have been no commitments to meet!"
The company... is meeting its contractual commitments?
It's finally happened.
I'm speechless.
Sean Kelly
Cuppy's Blogliography
Cuppy's isn't ever going to address the rip offs that are not
will not be refunded.
It will never be anything but an oportuniistic scam.
People have to stop drinking that dishwater that Nabors is pumping down their throats. The tube Nabors uses to pump that trash is the AAFD.--
Richard Solomon, FranchiseRemedies.com, has over 45 years experience with franchise litigation and crisis management. He is a graduate of The Citadel and The University of Michigan Law School
AAFD has many ironies in the fire
Richard, I cannot share your cynicism. As a marketing guy, I see the Cuppy as half full.
We live in a Golden age, a renaissance of irony, with Franchising serving as both muse and patron. The AAFD, a master, has many ironies in the fire. Some inspiring works:
- a group formed to fight fraud providing an instrument for fraud
- A fair franchising award granted to arguably the least trustworthy organization in recent franchising history
- An award giver saying Mission Accomplished! as the franchisor teeters on the verge of collapse
- An award giver saying an award used to induce trust should not induce trust
- A company simultaneously lauded for "meeting its contractual obligations" and being sued for not meeting its contractual obligations
- A fair franchising award recipient handing out fair franchising awards after admitting it does not practice fair franchising, then singing about fraud.
Perhaps the ultimate irony is that the true AAFD work of epic ironic art is that by awarding Cuppy's Coffee with a fair franchising award, and by adamantly maintaining the correctness of the decision, the AAFD is sending a prospective franchisees a powerful and useful message: Trust no one... especially us!
In that way, it may be fulfilling it's original mission after all.
Deceive & succeed ,
Sean