Judge Determines Quiznos Terminations Are a Charade

"…I find, that this whole charade of 'terminating' and 'defaulting' franchisees who failed the field test was just that—a charade—not driven by Quiznos' genuine concern about whether its franchisees were making sandwiches to spec, but rather by its overriding public relations desire to be able to proceed with its national advertising campaign targeting Subway." — District Court Judge Morris B. Hoffman decision on Quiznos Franchising v. Zig Zag Restaurant Group
DENVER (Blue MauMau) – In the last hours of 2008 federal judge Morris Hoffman issued a ruling that said Quiznos seemed more concerned with their competitor Subway than their own franchisees' welfare, trying to shut them down over a bogus meat test that masked the real reason of pettiness.
At the end of a five-day trial which began on December 8, District Court Judge Morris B. Hoffman stated that he would not be able to rule from the bench because the lawsuit was too complicated. He told the parties that he would issue his decision before the end of the year.
Yesterday, Judge Hoffman made his ruling on the lawsuit by Quiznos filed against two terminated franchisees for being slightly under the required five-ounce portion of meat on one of its tested Philly cheese steak sandwiches. In his decision he said all Quiznos' claims against franchisees Rich Piotrowski and Ellen Blickman, husband and wife, are dismissed with prejudice in favor of the franchise owners in the amount of $349,797 plus fees, costs and post-judgment interest at the contract rate of 24% per annum. The franchisees' counterclaim for rescission of one of two of their franchise agreements was also dismissed with prejudice.
Just prior to midnight, Piotrowski emailed a group of franchisees, elated over the decision. He exclaimed that the reality of the judge's ruling is that it is more of a moral victory than a monetary one. "What you do need to know is the last two plus years have been hell. What Quiznos did to us was as unconscionable as anything they could have done. Quiznos tried to shut us down, based on a bogus test that they claimed we failed. When we stood up to them, they set out to destroy us strictly because they can. If you read the Judge's ruling you can see that."More Than 7% of Quiznos Franchisees Sent Termination Notices
The franchisees entered two franchise agreements with Quiznos in April 2006, but ended up only operating one restaurant in Pennsylvania. The first agreement had originally been put on hold after their selected site at a mall fell through when the mall failed to open. At that time, Quiznos agreed to extend the 12-month period required to open their store after signing their contract. The second store, purchased from an existing franchisee, was only operated under their ownership for eight months, at which time Quiznos allegedly determined that they intentionally under-portioned the meat of one sandwich tested by a mystery shopper. The sandwich had less than the required five ounces of meat, which undermined Quiznos' aggressive ad campaign claiming its prime rib philly cheese steak sandwich had more than twice the meat of a comparable Subway sandwich.
The judge pointed out that Quiznos' then general counsel, Michael Daigle, testified that they had no interest in terminating any franchisees without giving them an opportunity to get back into compliance. But despite his inconsistent protocol, 300 franchisees were sent notices of termination, more than 7 percent of U.S. operators. According to the judge's decision, Piotrowski and Blickman were the only ones who were not given a chance to have their termination rescinded if they passed a third-party inspection after they responded to Quiznos' demands.
Judge Hoffman stated, "It is clear to me, and I find, that this whole charade of "terminating" and "defaulting" franchisees who failed the field test was just that--a charade--not driven by Quiznos' genuine concern about whether its franchisees were making sandwiches to spec, but rather by its overriding public relations desire to be able to proceed with its national advertising campaign targeting Subway."
But he further states, "This explains the sort of non-termination termination process Mr. Daigle came up with.
What he did not count on was that franchisees like Defendants might actually take the notice of termination at face value." When Daigle had testified that he "was done with Mr. Piotrowski," the judge asked him to explain that. But he continued saying, "Mr. Daigle got mad at Defendants because Mr. Piotrowski threatened to call a news conference, and Mr. Daigle decided at that instant that he would not afford Defendants the same opportunity he had afforded every other of the roughly 300 franchisees who were terminated."
Franchisees in ‘Shadow Land’ of Being or Not Being a Franchise
Although Quiznos had invited Piotrowski and Blickman to "mitigate damages" by remaining open despite their termination, the judge expressed that they began what ended up being a 14-month period of operating their stores in a “Kafkaesque kind of shadow land between approved Quiznos franchisee and terminated franchisees." Although Quiznos allowed them to buy food from authorized suppliers and to use its trademarks and service marks, it cut them off from Quiznos' Help Line and from other sources of official information. He said, "Quiznos even went so far as to physically bar Defendants from a regular marketing meeting they attempted to attend after the purported termination."
But he said the strangest element of this shadow existence was that Quiznos stopped taking its royalties and advertising fees. "This failure to collect royalties and fees is a symptom of how profoundly confused Quiznos’ legal department was about the nature of this shadow period," Judge Hoffman explained.
Out of the Shadows
Even after closing the store under the Quiznos name, the franchisees still didn’t give up. They remodeled, removed all Quiznos material, and reopened the store in May 2008 as the American Sub Sandwich Shop, selling sandwiches of their own design and buying food and paper products from their own independent suppliers. Judge Hoffman states, "Defendants operated this store until August 2008, at which time they chose to close it, in no small part because of the increasing demands of this litigation. Zig Zag remains liable on the lease. And of course Zig Zag and Defendants remain liable on the SBA loan." He said that he does not believe the franchisees must prove they closed their new operation because of Quiznos because at that point Quiznos was officially out of the picture, shadow and all. He said, "The question, again, becomes mitigation, and as with their operation of the Quiznos store in the shadow period, I find that Defendants acted reasonably in attempting to mitigate their damages by operating a non-Quiznos sub shop in that same location."
Pointing Fingers at Franchisees' Disparaging Internet Postings About Quiznos Is Just Smoke, It Has No Bearing on Case
Quiznos introduced evidence in the case that both before and after the franchisees’ purported termination in October 2006, Piotrowski posted numerous messages on a web site dedicated to having Quiznos franchisees air their grievances. The judge agreed with Quiznos that many of the postings were disparaging, but found they had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Quiznos’ decision to terminate the franchise. Judge Hoffman stated that Quiznos failed to prove that any disparagement so materially impaired their goodwill that they were justified in terminating the franchisees because of it.
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To top everything off Quizno's is making all Franchises from before 2000 up to 2006 have a MANDATORY upgrade.
They are sending aroud their make shift know nothing so they call them FBL's, well to me this means fat, bullheaded and lazy.
No PC language here.
To me they are only unqualified health inspectors.
This upgrade will cost around $4000.00 for each store. And as you guesses it we can only do it through Quizno's.
If we do not make the upgrade we will be in Default of our franchise agreement.
This Co. takes new franchisees in with false kindness.
After you are in they so tighten the screws on you that you will if they can help it never show a profit, and they will make all of your money.
When you fail they will follow you to make sure you never gain anything.
That is for sure. Quiznos is the poster child of what a bad zor is. People take notes!
Here's the latest:
The Denver Business Journal ($$) just reported the Quiznos v Zig Zag (Piotrowskis) case on the afternoon of Friday, January 9, 2009.
The full story is for paid print subscribers only. Any subscribers out there who want to report the interesting parts of the article? (Please don't post the whole article.)
Answer: When the qtards are involved it's business as usual. This is a little ditty sent out recently to Q franchisees. Nothing has been changed to protect the qtards.
Because our lobster mix is not 100% lobster, the State of Florida has decided that we must rename the
product. Restaurants may continue to serve the LTO upon request but should not display the current POP.
Please immediately remove all Maine Lobster POP, including the event translight, window poster, sneezeguard attachment, stanchion insert, and bag stuffer/flyers. Please post all the POP provided in your Event 5 box as instructed in the National Event 5 Rollout Guide.
We will resume regular sales of this product as soon as the new POP arrives. We will send out a revised
sneezeguard attachment and post revised bag stuffers on the LSM Customization Station as quickly as
possible. Until restaurants receive updated POP, you should consider making half batches of lobster mix.
Please watch your myMessages section of myQuiznos.com for details.
Although this was not identified as a potential issue when we previously tested Maine Lobster in Florida, this
has now become a point of concern for the state.
blah..blah...blah
It aint lobster but q has it priced to franchisees like it's pure, fresh, Maine lobster. Just another way that Quiznos takes from the franchisees and gives to itself. Those of you who are looking to invest in a franchise system should stay far, far away.
Al Lewis of Dow Jones Newswires wrote a column on this case that appeared in the Denver Post yesterday. He adds this news from Quiznos:
The judge considered that Quiznos was more concerned about its claims viz-a-viz competitor Subway than its own franchisees.
Nation's Restaurant News (NRN) on Thursday, January 8, reported on the December 31 federal court ruling in Denver. Little of the judge's sharply worded court order against Quiznos is covered. Franchise attorneys have explained to me that such mordant language and rebuke is quite unusual in court orders.
The article has this as the crux of why Piotrowski's franchise was singled out to be actually terminated compared to over seven percent of Quiznos' franchises who were only threatened with termination (a fact not mentioned in the article but mentioned in the court order -- see electronic page 8 of the court order, 2nd paragraph, pdf file).
Here's NRN:
That sounds like Quiznos has decided not to appeal the ruling.
Don't you love all this "you hurt me" ex-lover language coming from ex-franchise owners who couldn't make it? It looks to my eyes like they still cannot figure out what went wrong and how to make their riches.
Let's be honest. This is personal because Schaden is a human face behind the misery. Had he made franchise owners wildly rich, he'd be hailed as the Messiah, well, at least a good guy. The same can be said of ex-CEO Brenneman, Deno, President Bush, President Herbert Hoover, Richard Cox of the SEC, Chairman Bernacke of the Fed, ex-chairman Alan Greenspan and soon to be president, Barack Obama.
Are these men evil? Nah, they just pissed people off because we expect them to provide a money-making environment in our corner of the universe.
Success has many friends but failure has none.
Despite the court ruling, the issue is this: Richard Piotrowski threatened to go to the press while being served a termination notice for not meeting Quiznos' operating standards. Now honestly guys and gals, would you recommend this sort of behavior to franchise owners? That's like spitting on the shoe of a traffic cop who is warning you that you are double parked.
That's a lesson on how to lose friends and lose money.
“When I was young, I thought that money was the most important thing in life; now that I am old, I know it is” - Oscar Wilde
Rich writes: "Richard Piotrowski threatened to go to the press while being served a termination notice for not meeting Quiznos' operating standards. Now honestly guys and gals, would you recommend this sort of behavior to franchise owners?"
Yes.
Isn't this whole post a gag - right down to the name, and the odd use of Oscar Wilde?
Michael Webster, a franchisee attorney in Toronto, Ontario, publishes a website on business opportunities and franchises called "The BizOp News"
Michael Webster, a franchisee attorney in Toronto, Ontario, publishes a website on business opportunities and franchises called "The BizOp News"
"Gates" may have a point of general applicability, but Quiznos (and Schaden) is a bit unusual.
The structure of Quiznos has always been such that failure is preordained. Moreover, the Schadens have known this for years and even cheerfully volunteered during testimony some years ago that 40% of their owners did not even break even (a likely understatement).
Many franchisees fail because they are lazy, incompetent, or just not cut out for business. Many franchise systems fail because the business model is flawed and/or the franchisor is incompetent.
But there are a few systems out there which border on legalized theft, and I would suggest to you that history suggests Quizno's is one of those systems. The franchise industry unwisely chooses to lump all franchisors together, and this creates an awkward situation when the industry has to defend the practices of systems such as Quiznos.
Subway is a much larger chain, and you don't see the quantity nor the severity of the franchisee discontent that you see with Quizno's.
Indeed, anyone who has read BMM can see that there is an small number of systems which account for virtually all of the zee-side outrage on BMM--and Quiznos is one of the hardy perennials. This suggests that the problem is not with the Quizno's franchisees so much as being a problem with the franchisor.
As to Piotrowski's response, it is certainly not the first way that I would think of as a means of resolution. But that is a fact-specific calculus and I don't have sufficient knowledge to judge whether his response made sense under the circumstances.
Paul Steinberg
Franchisee Attorney, New York City, Ph: 212-529-5400
Paul Steinberg, Franchisee Attorney, New York City, Ph: 212-529-5400
I gave money to
Now my BRK is down, Bernie says my money is gone, and Webster won't tell me where his cousin is.
Are these men evil? Nah, they just pissed people off because we expected them to make money.
Both "Rich Gates" and "DoDiligence" miss the point. The very structure of Quiznos was and is such that Schaden's franchisees are going to end up on the short end of the stick.
Paul Steinberg
Franchisee Attorney, New York City, Ph: 212-529-5400
Paul Steinberg, Franchisee Attorney, New York City, Ph: 212-529-5400
Does anyone find it difficult to square away that Quiznos would threaten to terminate 7% of its franchises over insufficient meat with the statement, "It is certainly not our desire to engage in litigation with our franchisees."
What is amazing is that Quiznos didn't have a rebellion of litigation over the termination notices.
Quiznos franchisees obviously are really nice guys. They don't mind a beating and termination notice from time to time.
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Richard Solomon, FranchiseRemedies.com, has over 45 years experience with franchise litigation and crisis management. He is a graduate of The Citadel and The University of Michigan Law School
Richard Solomon, FranchiseRemedies.com, has over 45 years experience with franchise litigation and crisis management. He is a graduate of The Citadel and The University of Michigan Law School
As to Bob Frankman, well-- speak for yourself, Bob.
As to Richard Solomon, I would just remind him that different people may seek satisfaction from different types of meat .
Paul Steinberg
Franchisee Attorney, New York City, Ph: 212-529-5400
Paul Steinberg, Franchisee Attorney, New York City, Ph: 212-529-5400
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Richard Solomon, FranchiseRemedies.com, has over 45 years experience with franchise litigation and crisis management. He is a graduate of The Citadel and The University of Michigan Law School
Richard Solomon, FranchiseRemedies.com, has over 45 years experience with franchise litigation and crisis management. He is a graduate of The Citadel and The University of Michigan Law School
I suppose it works the same way in the States?
Business media will pick up on the business/legal aspects but the general media want the 'human angle' - preferrably with a seriously screwed victim [a lead in victim], family pain, a real bad guy [he will be when they finish] and they love it if they can point to an 'authority' and say - "you aholes; why didn't you step in?"; or in Qs case they might point to the Court/Judge and say "what a wonderful job you did on that ahole".
I would suggest that letters and emails to journalists should be short and sharp. Leave contact details and let them know if there are others that are prepared to be interviewed..
The heading and the first few lines must be a 'hook' - they receive lots of mail and decide quickly what is worth reading. They want 'blood' - you have to grab them immediatley.
When a journalists bites you have to remember that they don't generally have the time to investigate these types of stories. You then need to give them everything and they will confirm your facts.
I love it when a television journalist chases a bewildered, frightened scumbag franchisor down the road on a Sunday morning trying to stick a camera in his face. Any scumbag will do but when he’s your scumbag it really is a delight to enjoy over and over again.
In this instance you have to find out addresses, times, meetings, restaurant, gym - anything you can get.
The more things change; the more they stay the same.
No, thank you Ellen - between Midas Australia hitting the wall and the Q outcome it has been a wonderful start to 2009. And you are right - we franchisees tend to want to waffle on - with the media franchisees must initially construct something short and smart.
I have been wanting to ask both you and Rich; this must have been a very tough time in your lives - what support at any levels did you have to help you through the highs and lows?
The more things change; the more they stay the same.
The more things change; the more they stay the same.
many of the franchise systems are indeed ponzi schemes.Created to rob people of all their money to build their empires. I am hoping one day the courts will see the one-sided agreements are a license to lie,steal and cheat people. I am hoping franchising will be beneficial for everyone. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what is going on in the world of franchising. (Thanks to BMM and the internet.)
Rich, I don't know about the Canadian law, but remember that US law says that you may be forced to settle your dispute in a foreign country if that is what your contract says.
The leading cases are Bremen v. Zapata Offshore (involving Pres. Bush Sr's company, I think) providing for litigation in London and there was Mitsubishi v. Soler Chrysler-Plymouth ,(an auto franchisee forced to arbitrate in Tokyo).
Amy should check her contract to see if there is a forum selection clause, and consult with an attorney in her home jurisdiction to see if the clause is enforceable. She may need a US attorney after all.
Paul Steinberg
Franchisee Attorney, New York City, Ph: 212-529-5400
Paul Steinberg, Franchisee Attorney, New York City, Ph: 212-529-5400
Paul, typically the Canadian Q's have an Ontario forum selection clause in their agreement. Also 3 provinces have franchise protection statutes that cannot be contracted out of.
But you are correct that Amy should check her franchise agreement to determine that.
Michael Webster, a franchisee attorney in Toronto, Ontario, publishes a website on business opportunities and franchises called "The BizOp News"
Michael Webster, a franchisee attorney in Toronto, Ontario, publishes a website on business opportunities and franchises called "The BizOp News"
This is a wonderful outcome. The whingers and the sceptics complain "from time to time" that BMM doesn't publish enough good news. Almost everything published here is good news to those who struggle to understand what the hell happened or especially for those who became educated and avoided a terrible decision.
We all know the abuses and tactics employed by Quiznos are far from unique. What many don't appreciate is that justice is hard to get without follow through. This is a good lesson for everyone.
Congratulations to every Quiznos franchisee.
The more things change; the more they stay the same.
The more things change; the more they stay the same.
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