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Andrew Palmer Corrects Public Discussion Posts
Andrew Palmer, an attorney from the Boston area, has informed Blue MauMau that someone has registered on this site using his name, and it is not him. That individual typically writes posts that are strongly defensive of the numerous lawsuits and media news that Mr. Palmer has faced. Those posts also indicate a detailed knowledge of Mr. Palmer's legal cases.
I have invited Mr. Palmer to register and make his own statement publicly, but he seems inclined not to do that. I am therefore posting his letter so that his position on the matter is known by the community.
A colleague has called a situation to my attention. Somebody or sombodies [sic] is/are slamming me with a lot of false information on your web site. Somebody or sombodies [sic] is/are also logging onto your site impersonating me and saying some really terrible stuff that makes me out to be some kind of nut.
Some, if not all, of the referenced [sic] to me on your site are actionable by me against the person posting. I can also take action against you for allowing this type of forum to exist. You're aiding and abetting slander and other tortious conduct.
Before I take any action, I would like to give you the opportunity to rectify the situation. Please remove ALL reference to me from your web site right away. The damages I'm suffering are ongoing. You're best advised to take action on this immediately.
Govern Yourself Accordingly,
GOD BLESS AMERICA
Andrew
Andrew P. Palmer
Lawyer
Blue MauMau has a policy of not deleting forum discussion threads and comment postings. We do not exercise editorial control in the forum and comment threads on who can or cannot be discussed. We also do not verify if a person, whether a registered member or not, is who they say they are. We let our readers judge for themselves what the truth is.
It should be noted that Blue MauMau's news correspondents have not reported on Mr. Palmer's lawsuits in our investigative news stories. Nonetheless, there have been numerous discussion threads brought up by the public about Mr. Palmer in our forum and comment areas.
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andrew p palmer
I just wish i could tell you the HELL he put me thru but he might sue
me for being honest.... Something I noticed was missing in him????
Re: andrew p palmer
Andrew P. Palmer should be ashamed of himself- Ending his note with "Lawyer" says it all....
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Dear Mr. Blue MauMau,
There is an easy way to check the voracity of Palmer's claim that an impostor posted the diatribes from last week.
You can check the IP address of the person who posted Mr. Palmer's comments (ahem: alleged comments) in your web analytics log (every hosting account has one). Once you match the post's IP address (using the day and time it was posted), you can compare that IP address with the IP address from Palmer's emails to you on the following day. Simply check the header of each email.
If they are the same, you have proof he's lying. If different, then perhaps he's telling the truth. It would be interesting to find out.
Good luck.
Two Additional Andrew Palmer emails
The following two emails were received. It was signed Andrew Palmer and had contact information at the bottom.
Mr. Blue MauMau
Editor
Add'l Palmer Email
This is an email received late this afternoon from an Andrew P. Palmer:
Mr. Palmer
Mr. Palmer claims that some unknown poster was posing as him, writing articles in defence of the real Mr. Palmer.
Mr. Palmer claims this false postings are defamatory of him and urges BMM to delete these postings -without any proof or evidence that Mr. Palmer did post the articles he has complained about.
The correct response is for Mr. Palmer to open an account here, and advise BMM to delete any posts not from his account. The spam filter could be modified so that posts signed "Palmer" would be held until BMM could determine the validity of the poster.
Mr. Palmer may strike some here as an unsympathetic character, and he might well be. But few of us would like our identities hijacked on BMM, especially when the remedy is easy.
Michael Webster, a franchisee attorney in Toronto, Ontario, who publishes a website on business opportunities and franchises, called "The BizOp News"
Inasmuch as Palmer, himself has not been known to have posted
here in all its history; and inasmuch as what has recently transpired concerning himself lacks merit and gravity; isn't it far better than he remain permanently aloof? It is quite obvious that he has little or nothing to contribute worth consideration, so why encourage him?
Far better that he has had his 15 minutes in the limelight and be gone.
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Richard Solomon, FranchiseRemedies.com, has over 45 years experience with franchise litigation and crisis management. He is a graduate of The Citadel and The University of Michigan Law School
Mr MauMau exposes self to Andrew Palmer
Even the posting about how he is one of Franchise Times' "Legal Eagles " ?
That was the funniest one, albeit unintentionally.
As to his comment about Mr. MauMau "exposing himself", well that is between Palmer and Mr. MauMau. But you guys should get a room, or at least move to Connecticut .
BTW: I do hope that you have properly set up a corporate entity. If not, I read that "Andrew Palmer, Lawyer" is quite adept at establishing corporate entities . And he does so just in the nick of time.
Paul Steinberg
Franchisee Attorney, New York City, Ph: 212-529-5400
&*%# yourself, accordingly....
Are you sure the letter is from the real Andrew Palmer?
Hope Andrew's not holding his breath waiting for you to act on his oh so generous offer for you to rectify the situation and "remove ALL reference to me from your website right away".
Oh well, you can't spell ANDREW PALMER without D R E A M E R.
God Bless America, indeed.
I'm not covered by any professional liability insurance
Andrew P Palmer
Andrew P Palmer And Associates
781-681-9811
200 Cordwainer Drive
Suite 301
Norwell MA 02061
Admitted to the bar on 1985-12-18
Current status is Active
Full office addresses listed for active status attorneys only.
This attorney has certified that he or she is NOT COVERED by professional liability insurance.
This attorney has no record of public discipline.
Data as of 2008-11-14
Palmer's in the bar, alright
From what I read of the (allegedly real) Andrew Palmer emails discussing the (allegedly fake) Andrew Palmer, I'd say that he was admitted to a lot of bars.
On a serious note, there are many reasons why people don't carry professional insurance and I wouldn't read much into that. Palmer's poorly-crafted emails to Mr. MauMau are far more indicative of unprofessionalism.
Paul Steinberg
Franchisee Attorney, New York City, Ph: 212-529-5400
One reason why one would not carry PL insurance
The same reason that other hack semi-professionals do not carry liability insurance - no insurance makes you less attractive to suit when you screw up. But what of the enterprises that he affiliates with? Wouldn't you think twice?
Is all this nothing more than Palmer's attempt to get some
attention? It isn't as though he has ever made any intellectual contribution to any issue of franchising. He has not - at least not to my knowledge - ever been known as a leading light in any field of endeavor whatsoever.
But for his noise he would remain a complete nonentity. That's why I thought at first that he was Spuddie Pie - a nobody going no where, but wanting/needing attention - any kind of attention as long as it's attention.
OK - He has won some attention. YEA for him. Child psychologists differ on the question whether to ignore a child having a tantrum or spank the crap out of him. But that misses the point that some children take a good arse whuppin as a demonstration of affection, and so develops tendencies in later life to seek infliction of punishment as an erotic stimulation technique. Here in Texas, that would bode well for the bondage freaks and for duct tape futures.
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Richard Solomon, FranchiseRemedies.com, has over 45 years experience with franchise litigation and crisis management. He is a graduate of The Citadel and The University of Michigan Law School
Damages are ongoing
"The damages I'm suffering are ongoing."
Just like Palmer's former clients ;)
Shelled or unshelled?
Reading yesterday's post on "Coward gets..." I am struck by the extraordinarily broad range of Mr. Palmer's cases with which the "fake" Palmer has intimate knowledge of.
I have never heard of an attorney doing real estate closings who had groupies, but apparently Mr. Palmer would have us believe that someone has closely followed his cases and is now rising to his defense on the internet by assuming his identity and posting rebuttals to his critics.
As to Palmer's concern that he may be seen as "some kind of nut"... well, that ship seems to have sailed.
Palmer's closing salutation seems a bit parochial for this board, so I shall suggest an alternative which will be inclusive of our BMM Maple Leaf Chapter :
GOD BLESS AMERICA (WITH A NOD TO THE CANUCKS, TOO)
And then we have:
GOD HELP CANUCKS WHO CAN'T SING
Paul Steinberg
Franchisee Attorney, New York City, Ph: 212-529-5400
Guilty of praise per se
I don't understand. Mr. Palmer is upset at his imposter for praising and defending him?
You've heard of going to court for libel per se. Well, this is the first I've heard of threatening someone over praising per se.
Defamation, meet the dangers of your opposite - famation.
Don't Libel Blue MauMau
The real Palmer may also be upset that the fake Palmer is so consistent in saying such bad things about the Blue MauMau site.
but can he do good work?
All this stuff about this guy and his past. Is their a better franchise packager out there with same or better pricing that can do the job better and can get it selling faster. If so please reply.