Guys and gals,

There is a time and place for everything. Comments under the news of Mr. Baber's demise should probably be focused on him and his family. So, I've started a thread discussing the Quizno's franchise concept in our forum area.

We are getting a high decibel level of vitriol from some disgruntled Quizno's owners. Arguments like, "Your quoted closure rates are incorrect, and you simply... are incorrect" do not hold much water. I'd like to think that we like to hear the facts and the whole picture here.

"If you go in for argument, take care of your temper. Your logic, if you have any, will take care of itself."  - Joseph Farrell 

Let me get the discussion rolling. We are franchise owners. We sometimes like to gripe about our franchisers (it's kind of healing) but...

1. We understand that failure and risk are part of every business, not just Quizno's. There ain't no such thing as a sure thing. How much risk? Well, there's a study in Blue MauMau's franchipedia (franchise encyclopedia) that collects failure rates of independent versus franchise businesses from various studies.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."  - Sir Winston Churchill

2. A case has not been persuasively made about why Quizno's sticks out in not having a viable franchise model. Let me give the Quizno's owners some help in their arguement. TSFA has their own list of unprofitable Quizno's franchise rates that frankly, does not seem statistically robust to me. Here it is from an article that ran earlier...

• 48% or more of Quizno's Unprofitable?