Corporate Horror Stories to Amuse

I would like some questions answered- not just me, but a whole lot of people. Are you all working for free? In this economy who in their right mind would be so stupid? I still can't figure out who would be stupid enough to move to Alabama in the middle of nowhere to work for such a failing company. What are you going to do when it is bankrupt? Move back to Florida? Or did you not think that far in advance. That is your problem you don't think about the future- Who all is contacting the FBI? I think the guests should reveal their names- this is freedom of speech and you did NOTHING wrong- Cuppy's Management did. Please respond, thanks!

After that, Day 12.
After that, Day 13.
After that,______

well, you know the rest.

Dwyer Group has quite a history of its own. If Dale Nabors passed through that organization, he would not be the only one of his type to get his ticket punched as a self-proclaimed experienced franchise exec.

This is where Les Stuart's continued caveat of 'what happens to franchisees when a company is sold' makes a ton of sense.

I've found out from a former member of the " Alabama Scheme Team," errrrrrrrrr I mean "Alabama Dream Team," that Dale Nabors was paying certain employees at Cuppy's Coffee to blog Robert Morgan. He was having them blog Robert Morgan with vicious lies to make him look really bad with any and all franchisees. This was being done by Dale Nabors before he ever stole Cuppy's. That's right people...STOLE. He wanted to come riding in on a white horese in shinning armour. He hasn't paid anything for Cuppy's, just a "song and a dance." THIS IS A BONAFIDE FACT! Another fact that I found out is...Dale is on these blogs daily defending himself as other people. THIS IS A BONAFIDE FACT! I know that Robert Morgan is no angel by any means, but next to Dale Nabors...Robert is Gabriel coming down from Heaven in all his Glory! Robert Morgan never stole a penny from anyone. He might have borrowed from Peter to pay Paul, but never did he steal or lie or committ FRAUD like Dale Nabors did. Now Mr. Admin, I know that you have given Dale Nabors the benefit of the doubts a number of times on here and tried to put everything on Mr. Morgan, but you were wrong. PERIOD THE END! What I am telling you now is Dale knowingly and deliberately committed outright FRAUD and he is going jail because of it. Morg never sent out BOGUS invoices to the SBA and the banks. Dale Nabors did and people now have definitive proof that this FRAUD took place numerous times. This has now gone from the Attorney General's Office in Florida to the Inspector General's Office and they are ON IT! This will take a little time but it's now in the system. Franchisee's keep your eyes open, because justice will prevail. And if you can believe it, Dale Nabors is still telling the same people he told 3 months ago..."It will be next week, and I will have the money." He will never get any money because everyone now knows what a SPINELESS, COWARD, THEIF, this sorry excuse of a man he really is... If you talk to Dale Nabors long enough you will see that he's not real bright. If you were to stuff his brain up a humming bird's ass, it would be like a peanut rollng around in a boxcar.

Stores are closing for 2 simple reasons: under capitalized franchisees and buildout costs that put the franchisees in too big of a hole. First, under capitalized franchisees. All you have to do is look at Sean's site to see what I'm talking about. A disabled vet who cashed in an annuity, franchisees taking credit card cash advances, franchisees taking home equity loans, cashing in 401k's. These are all people that NEVER should have been allowed to become franchisees. They had NO working capital to ramp their stores. Also, none of these folks had any food service experience. They are teachers and retirees and stay at home moms that had NEVER owned a business, and ceratinly had no idea what the food service industry was like. Second, when you charge franchisees $200 per square foot for their buildout (after white box), you're putting these folks in the hole before they can open. Take into account buildout time beyond the construction period and these folks open with NO cash on hand. Did they expect to turn a profit on day one? They might have been sold the "field of dreams" but EVERY business needs time to ramp. That's why retailers report same store sales (sales for stores open at least ONE year).

It wasn't the Cuppy's concept that was a failure. They have great coffee drinks. It was the quality (or lack thereof) of the franchisees and the ridiculous buildout costs.

Be exceedingly careful about sending any legal information over the internet, particularly descriptions of "potential civil claims" against any party.

Not only do you not know who is at the receiving end of that email, but also there may be no attorney-client privilege so even if the recipient is indeed associated with a lawsuit, and passes the information along to an attorney, that communication may be discoverable under a subpoena.

Whoever posted this should have a discussion with the attorney handling the case (assuming this is a bona fide posting in good faith). 

N.B.: Many attorneys do not use Gmail for any legal matters, but that is a debate I leave to the techies to discuss.

Paul Steinberg
Franchisee Attorney, New York City, Ph: 212-529-5400

will be doing build outs again. What the heck... they're glutten for punishment. Also hear that Amy Hiller is so far up Morgs ass while he is in AL because she sees him being in charge again very soon. She goes whichever way the wind is blowing. It's terrible when someone doesn't know how to stand on their own two feet. Payroll has still not been paid. Not only for the FL ex employees final paycheck but the dumba$$es that moved to AL with Dale haven't been paid for a month and a half. Unless you want to count the bad check Dale gave them that bounced. Does Dale think if Morg takes the company back that he can wash his hands clean of the cluster you know what? I don't think so because Dale talked zees into sending in more $ & he still did not put that $ towards the zees projects. Fraud, fraud, fraud! Also, Morg is not in the clear either! The lawsuits are piling up against the company, Dale & Morg. You can run but you can't hide!

Why do you think that Morg's return would be a "horror story"?

Morg was hugely beloved by the franchisees and employees. All the folks that lost their money to Morg were happy as clams till Nabors took over.

All the whiners who are threatening lawsuits would melt like butter in the face of Morg's soothing sweet nothings. Indeed, many of them who are now pleading poverty would likely come up with more money once Morg is back running the show. Plus the Jones clan loved Morg, and the "Angola love shack" will be back in operation; likely with a whole new layer of shell companies. No doubt John Dozier will reprise his role as Legal Terrorist and Lou as Consigliere, and the bad blog postings will vanish into the silicon mist.

I don't even pretend to understand the Cuppy's franchisees or their devotion to the man who took their money. I don't understand why Funding Solutions didn't cut Morg off when all the SBA money was being "misplaced." I don't understand why anyone would let themselves be strung along (for years in some cases) and gently go into the abyss of bankruptcy.

But like masochists who have found their dominatrix, the love affair between Morg and the sucker sheep is a match made in heaven.

Paul Steinberg
Franchisee Attorney, New York City, Ph: 212-529-5400

I must say... You have balls sir.
I am in shock that you would complain about missing 1 or 2 checks from this company. You worked for the company, you were well aware of what this company was doing yet you want the very franchisees that you helped rip off to feel sorry for you? I am an ex employee. I had nothing to do with the money that was coming in from franchisees but I knew deep down that something was fishy with the company. I just didn't have any proof. You on the other hand do have proof yet you with held that from the proper authorities. I am appald that I even worked for the company, I am even more appald that there were so many crocks that worked for this company, not just Morg or Dale but employees as well. As you have just proven some of the employees fall into the same catagory as Dale and Morg. Yes Morg and Dale wanted everyone to believe that everything was all hunky dory and that is what they sold to franchisees and employees but as I said before I knew something was fishy. If you are one of the employees that truley believed that everything was on the up and up then you are a very nieve person. If you are one of the employees that has proof of what was happening to the franchisee, then you deserve to be in jail right along side Morg and Dale.
For the franchisee, I hope to god that you all get your money back and I am very sorry for being a part of such a crocked company. Keep fighting. I have heard that there is another employee that has written proof of fraud. Hopefully Dale and Morg will be in jail very shortly.

I just love it when people find God when they get what is coming to them but conveniently forget #8, You shall not steal, when paying rent with dirty money.

Are you freakin' kidding me?? How dare you get on a website that is a discussion board where franchisees have been trying to get advice about how to salvage their lives and talk about YOUR paycheck.

"I have been loyal up until today but the loyalty ends today."

So you were fine up until today knowing that you were helping to defraud people and lie to them about their businesses? Not until you weren't getting your portion of the pie do you give a damn. THEN you want to start talking about God. . . Do Cuppy's employees get a pamphlet when they start work that is a "how to" manual about calling forth the name of GOD to get people to believe in you? Never spoke to Dale but Morg was a master at that. Too bad for him I beleive religion that would have him as a member. (old WC Fields reference)

Do you really beleive in your heart of hearts that you have been wronged. When you play on the "bad" guy's team sometimes you get screwed. Don't get too upset if you find little support here!!! Go get another minimum wage job!!

"Rely on the morals" of Dale Nabors?!!!

Now that's the pot calling out the kettle!

So if you got your money, all would be well and you would keep the secrets. But if you are not paid, then and only then will you go to the SBA.

You disgust me more than Nabors, Morgan, Hayes, and Snowden combined.

You had no trouble taking your paycheck each week, knowing that paycheck was coming from the proceeds of this fraud which you daily assisted in perpetrating.

Spare us your lectures. Take a look in the mirror.

If you really feel that bad, give back all the money you made from working this con game.

Paul Steinberg
Franchisee Attorney, New York City, Ph: 212-529-5400