Looks like you are a PMD competitor (probably former lying manager recruiter) that is building your own PMD while taking pot shots you wish we're true. How about identifying yourself and/or giving us a link to the assault action you say has happened. If you were ever a PMD recruiter we know your probably a bigger liar than Jeff.
Someone was looking for a picture of Cliff Clark. Earlier they were deleted but now it is reappearing. Pictures are available at their website. Happy hunting!
Currently, Legacy is involved in five (5) other lawsuits with former Legacy franchisees, all of whom are represented by Ichter Thomas, LLC, and all of who have similar claims alleging fraud and/or a pattern of racketeering activity.
Unfortunately Discovery Point's Clark had been more slippery and destroyed all evidence and pretends to be sick while thinking of more ways to escape. Cary Ichter once saved Clark from a franchisee named Miller. So, even if he knows how to get him, cannot do it.
Just when you think it's winding down It just continues to get more bizarre. Get a load of the complaint against him now - damages for physical assault. The melt down continues.
The franchise concept was developed to have a win win situation for both franchisors and franchisees. However, several rogue franchisors with near criminal thoughts got in to the game. For example, Discovery Point, Legacy Academy, and other child care franchises made big money from each sale of their franchised centers. These substandard buildings were sold for more than $2M to the franchisees with fabricated business plans that they will be profitable. In reality, the franchise and the bank knew, Franchisees had no chance to survive and the plan was to buy back the failed buildings and re-sale. Bank got compensated by SBA and the franchise. The franchise paid the gap of SBA guarantee and franchisees' payments. Very clever and completely legit except for the fact that franchisees were intentionally harmed with the help of multiple corporations!
These buildings were custom made and could not be used for anything else without major modifications. So, franchisor was the only good buyer available during bankruptcy. Everyone knows about these but there has not been any disciplinary action. These buildings were sold with other associated corporations and not directly by the franchise parent company. However, corporation ownership records clearly indicate that franchise corporate owners (husband wife) are the owners of all associated business units. Similarly, you will find these furniture will be sold to you not by the franchise but other business entities, but ultimately the money will go to the franchise corporate owners.
Better make it Tax Returns and dont be suprised if those are fake. Every PMD recruiter I knew was perfectly willing to LIE about incomes so if you are being recruited for any form of BEDDING or furniture business by any of them (sometimes its hard to know who they are as they hide their names), do your homework and make them give you signed statments in writting so you can take legal action against them if you need to.
Only 167 CBI franchises left system wide (US 107 + 60 International CBI per CBI locator) that means 240 CBI's closed since Jan 2011 as the 2011 disclosure doc says they had 407 at the begining of 2011. Guess the facts are showing the truth...this franchise is going, going and almost gone.
reposted above the spam so the TRUTH about Candy Bouquet International will be known
Is there no scandal? The presented material indicates otherwise. These franchises used their name to get the loan and customers but did not put their names on high risk loans guaranteed by SBA. They used many different business entities to hide the tracks. That is manipulation and may be RICO.
There were a few posts on the truth behind Diane's Demotion here. But those were quickly removed. Is someone complaining about the truth and using the legal muscle power acquired from Franchisees hard labor to erase them?
Only 167 CBI franchises left system wide (US 107 + 60 International CBI per CBI locator) that means 240 CBI's closed since Jan 2011 as the 2011 disclosure doc says they had 407 at the begining of 2011. Guess the facts are showing the truth...this franchise is going, going and almost gone.
In researching franchise businesses I came across this site. The general concept sounds interesting, but in this day of using credit cards for everything, is there really a need for ATMs? I used to use them regularly but almost never do anymore. Granted, I haven't thought through this very much, but that's my initial reaction. Still, if someone can point out the need, I would consider pursuing it further – but probably not through ACFN, whom I've never heard of before today. Thanks in advance.
And more US Candy Bouquet Internationals go poof, poof, poof...down to 107 US Franchises on CBI's locator...and those numbers just keep on dropping lower and lower and lower...
FYI didn't or no longer bother checking to see how many stores are actually duplicate locations since it really no longer matters...this company is dying!!! Can't wait till it is zippo, zero, nada too bad it's on the new owners watch...Margaret knew when she needed to get out after sucking the gold coins out of franchisees had caught up with her.
Candy Bouquet International still continues to shrink faster than growing!
These family owned franchisors have enjoyed lavish life styles for years based on lies and fraud and franchisees hard work. When are they going to be caught? They are in their retirement ages and have started to drop off. For example Diane Clark of Discovery Point mysteriously passed away! Similarly Turners of Legacy Academy are also getting old and the lavish life style is not going to help with longevity. If SBA keeps delaying, these people will escape justice! Melissa Turner worked with Governor Sonny Purdue- who knows how deep their connections are.
Remember when Bert calls you the money is in the recrutiment and salary not working a clearance center or one day sale. The clearance center was the fraud not the managers salary, perks and trips. Beware of ex PMD managers telling you that their concept works??? Tell them to show you their financials or tax statements. Sure it works!
Can someone tell me just why everyone seems to tie Bert with Jeff and Joe? Didn't Jeff and Joe fire Bert for lousy performance in his clearance center. That was a shock as most Managers claimed they were doing so well i.e. Stephen, Rick and Jason??
Heard two more DP centers will be closing in the Atlanta area this month. Each is nearly $3M SBA guaranteed loan. These were not marked as Franchised loans and hope SBA can connect the dots. These loans were made by Jackie Hart with Fidelity Bank and Jack Gutkin was involved along with the Clarks. These will perhaps not be reported in the FDD - that is how DP operated in the past.
There are few if any stores that "make you easily $250k per year in profit" on mailbox rentals. The original message appears to be written by someone delusional or a shill.
These people have created a charity in their name too. Dirty money is being used for buying fame! Was their any foul play? No one will know- the burial was quick.
Bob says he's:".... decided to join the Rainbow Academy group, and that for me and my future, putting my faith in Troy..."
This is not about getting religion, it's a business investment. I have no horse in this race and no nothing about this person Troy, or if this is a good franchise brand. BUT it isn't about "faith" AND snake oil salesmen (I have no idea if he's one or not) OF COURSE would normally be "positive". C'mon, think about it, how many negative sales people or con artists are there? The problem of course is telling which are which.
Looks like you are a PMD competitor (probably former lying manager recruiter) that is building your own PMD while taking pot shots you wish we're true. How about identifying yourself and/or giving us a link to the assault action you say has happened. If you were ever a PMD recruiter we know your probably a bigger liar than Jeff.
Someone was looking for a picture of Cliff Clark. Earlier they were deleted but now it is reappearing. Pictures are available at their website. Happy hunting!
Ichter Thomas, LLC Obtains $1.155 Million Verdict For Former Franchisees of Legacy Academy, Inc.
http://www.ichterthomas.com/2013/04/ichter-thomas-llc-obtains-1-155-million-verdict-for-former-franchisees-of-legacy-academy-inc/
Currently, Legacy is involved in five (5) other lawsuits with former Legacy franchisees, all of whom are represented by Ichter Thomas, LLC, and all of who have similar claims alleging fraud and/or a pattern of racketeering activity.
Unfortunately Discovery Point's Clark had been more slippery and destroyed all evidence and pretends to be sick while thinking of more ways to escape. Cary Ichter once saved Clark from a franchisee named Miller. So, even if he knows how to get him, cannot do it.
Just when you think it's winding down It just continues to get more bizarre. Get a load of the complaint against him now - damages for physical assault. The melt down continues.
The franchise concept was developed to have a win win situation for both franchisors and franchisees. However, several rogue franchisors with near criminal thoughts got in to the game. For example, Discovery Point, Legacy Academy, and other child care franchises made big money from each sale of their franchised centers. These substandard buildings were sold for more than $2M to the franchisees with fabricated business plans that they will be profitable. In reality, the franchise and the bank knew, Franchisees had no chance to survive and the plan was to buy back the failed buildings and re-sale. Bank got compensated by SBA and the franchise. The franchise paid the gap of SBA guarantee and franchisees' payments. Very clever and completely legit except for the fact that franchisees were intentionally harmed with the help of multiple corporations!
These buildings were custom made and could not be used for anything else without major modifications. So, franchisor was the only good buyer available during bankruptcy. Everyone knows about these but there has not been any disciplinary action. These buildings were sold with other associated corporations and not directly by the franchise parent company. However, corporation ownership records clearly indicate that franchise corporate owners (husband wife) are the owners of all associated business units. Similarly, you will find these furniture will be sold to you not by the franchise but other business entities, but ultimately the money will go to the franchise corporate owners.
Better make it Tax Returns and dont be suprised if those are fake. Every PMD recruiter I knew was perfectly willing to LIE about incomes so if you are being recruited for any form of BEDDING or furniture business by any of them (sometimes its hard to know who they are as they hide their names), do your homework and make them give you signed statments in writting so you can take legal action against them if you need to.
Only 167 CBI franchises left system wide (US 107 + 60 International CBI per CBI locator) that means 240 CBI's closed since Jan 2011 as the 2011 disclosure doc says they had 407 at the begining of 2011. Guess the facts are showing the truth...this franchise is going, going and almost gone.
reposted above the spam so the TRUTH about Candy Bouquet International will be known
Is there no scandal? The presented material indicates otherwise. These franchises used their name to get the loan and customers but did not put their names on high risk loans guaranteed by SBA. They used many different business entities to hide the tracks. That is manipulation and may be RICO.
There were a few posts on the truth behind Diane's Demotion here. But those were quickly removed. Is someone complaining about the truth and using the legal muscle power acquired from Franchisees hard labor to erase them?
Only 167 CBI franchises left system wide (US 107 + 60 International CBI per CBI locator) that means 240 CBI's closed since Jan 2011 as the 2011 disclosure doc says they had 407 at the begining of 2011. Guess the facts are showing the truth...this franchise is going, going and almost gone.
In researching franchise businesses I came across this site. The general concept sounds interesting, but in this day of using credit cards for everything, is there really a need for ATMs? I used to use them regularly but almost never do anymore. Granted, I haven't thought through this very much, but that's my initial reaction. Still, if someone can point out the need, I would consider pursuing it further – but probably not through ACFN, whom I've never heard of before today. Thanks in advance.
"There's a sucker born every minute" P.T. Barnum
I would have thought she would have accidentally flushed her self down the toilet by now.
Remind me what did P.T. Barnum say?
Thanks
And more US Candy Bouquet Internationals go poof, poof, poof...down to 107 US Franchises on CBI's locator...and those numbers just keep on dropping lower and lower and lower...
FYI didn't or no longer bother checking to see how many stores are actually duplicate locations since it really no longer matters...this company is dying!!! Can't wait till it is zippo, zero, nada too bad it's on the new owners watch...Margaret knew when she needed to get out after sucking the gold coins out of franchisees had caught up with her.
Candy Bouquet International still continues to shrink faster than growing!
Wow! This place is still in business???? I guess what P.T. Barnum said remains
true even in 2013.................Amazing!
How do you feel about Tim hortons? I am in central Ohio and am considering investing in one.
These family owned franchisors have enjoyed lavish life styles for years based on lies and fraud and franchisees hard work. When are they going to be caught? They are in their retirement ages and have started to drop off. For example Diane Clark of Discovery Point mysteriously passed away! Similarly Turners of Legacy Academy are also getting old and the lavish life style is not going to help with longevity. If SBA keeps delaying, these people will escape justice! Melissa Turner worked with Governor Sonny Purdue- who knows how deep their connections are.
Remember when Bert calls you the money is in the recrutiment and salary not working a clearance center or one day sale. The clearance center was the fraud not the managers salary, perks and trips. Beware of ex PMD managers telling you that their concept works??? Tell them to show you their financials or tax statements. Sure it works!
Can someone tell me just why everyone seems to tie Bert with Jeff and Joe? Didn't Jeff and Joe fire Bert for lousy performance in his clearance center. That was a shock as most Managers claimed they were doing so well i.e. Stephen, Rick and Jason??
Heard two more DP centers will be closing in the Atlanta area this month. Each is nearly $3M SBA guaranteed loan. These were not marked as Franchised loans and hope SBA can connect the dots. These loans were made by Jackie Hart with Fidelity Bank and Jack Gutkin was involved along with the Clarks. These will perhaps not be reported in the FDD - that is how DP operated in the past.
There are few if any stores that "make you easily $250k per year in profit" on mailbox rentals. The original message appears to be written by someone delusional or a shill.
These people have created a charity in their name too. Dirty money is being used for buying fame! Was their any foul play? No one will know- the burial was quick.
Bob says he's:".... decided to join the Rainbow Academy group, and that for me and my future, putting my faith in Troy..."
This is not about getting religion, it's a business investment. I have no horse in this race and no nothing about this person Troy, or if this is a good franchise brand. BUT it isn't about "faith" AND snake oil salesmen (I have no idea if he's one or not) OF COURSE would normally be "positive". C'mon, think about it, how many negative sales people or con artists are there? The problem of course is telling which are which.
Hello, please send additional details, sounds interesting.