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Jazzercise Franchise????

...I was researching this franchise and came across a forum where several instructors were concerned about the costs of running a Jazzercise business. Some were saying that corporate offices were charging a hefty fee for the monthly electronic membership fees...some were saying that what they are making barely covers the expenses. Some said that at one conference for franchise instructors they were given mirros and then posted the following question to the attendees: If your center is not doing good this is the reason? And they were asked to look into the mirror....oh my God; that's ridiculous. It was also mentioned that Jazzercise franchisee's are NOT allowed to post on forums such as this one...so I might never get an answer as to: 1. Do you run a successful Jazzercise center, or do you lease your space at recreational centers? 2. What was your initial investment to open your center? 3. How many members do you service? 4. How much do your charge per member? 5. How long did it take for you to see your profits? 6. Are you allow to have a center and also provide footwear, exercise clothing, etc.? 7. Do you get profits if any to sell Ryka footwear are your location? 8. Can you own a Jazzercise franchise center and not teach, and just run it with sub instructors? 9. How much are the sub instructors paid? 10. How long have you had your Jazzercise franchise?

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Former Instructor

I was a student for several years and a class owner for 10. I can tell you that it is very "cliquish". I went on maternity leave and my District Manager had a cow! He (bet you can guess who) made me get a doctor's excuse, etc. I infomred him that if I wsa an independent contractor I shouldn't need a doctor's excuse and the person who owned classes before me never taught from June to September. Needless to say I was blackballed! When I moved, I was refused a new contract (yes, you only own a geographical area) - after I paid for insurance, franchise fees, etc. I requested my money back and had to sue to get a refund!
The first 5 years I was an instructor I was part of the clique - I had 21 successful classes and made a $*&^load of money for corporate and they loved me - I could do no wrong. I recruited 17 yes 17 instructors - only 1 of which is still teaching. I got money for advertising, etc. I made money but never enough to quit my full-time job. Believe it or not, I think Jazzercise is most successful in small to mid communities with little or no competition. The most successful instructor I know teaches in a tri-town area that has a population of about 25,000.
As far as renting a church, many states have "cracked down" on a non-tax paying entity renting its facility to a for-profit business. Corporate makes it almost immpossible to teach at a gym or other facility and if you do teach another type of exercise - personal training, yoga, etc. you have to pay 10% royalties on that income as well. If you became an instructor prior to like 1990, you don't have to pay this amount.
Really talk with a variety of people before you jump into this - and remember, if you loose money for more than 5 years the IRS might consider this a "hobby" and not allow a loss more than the income you generated!

Buyer Beware

I am a former Jazzercise franchisee. I taught for 7 years, and resigned in October 2011. My resignation was due to medical issues, but I suspect I would have resigned within the next year anyway due to difficulties with the franchise.

Let me say, I LOVE the jazzercise workout -- it's fun, it's effective, and I truly loved it as both a student and as an instructor. BUT -- if you decide to pursue a franchise, crunch the numbers and really understand what you're signing up for. It truly is the rare instructor who can make a decent profit, and I don't know any who could support themselves on it.

Be aware that if you are a class owner, you will pay 20% of your monthly gross to Jazzercise Inc. That's a hefty amount. You will be responsible for your own advertising and marketing -- corporate does woefully little on either front, and there is no "advertising fund." Every franchisee is on their own. Advertising is expensive with very little ROI. You will need to build or purchase a stage, you'll need sound equipment, a microphone, music 5x's per year, you'll pay insurance and music royalties every year. If you want to provide equipment as a courtesy to your customers (mats, weights, resistance balls, xertubes, etc.) you'll shell out money for that as well. If you are able to recruit your own instructors, you'll be able to add classes, but you'll also have to pay the instructors. Most class owners in this economic climate are finding that adding classes to their schedule rarely brings in enough revenue to justify paying extra people to teach. And don't forget to figure in the rent you'll pay to a facility.

The cost of the franchise is increasing soon, as is the minimum monthly fee (in other words, if your monthly 20% does not equal $250, you'll pay them $250). Do the math -- for that $250 to equal 20% of your gross, you need to gross $1,250 per month. If your average monthly price to customers is $38 (that's an average of what most class owners charge on EFT), then you need approximately 33 regular customers on a monthly EFT draft. If you are starting brand new classes with no customers, it can take a long time to build up to that 33. Can you financially sustain and keep your classes open until you reach that number? Will your family finances survive paying Jazzercise $250 per month if your business doesn't earn that much? Also - the numbers I'm using above are "gross" numbers -- know that your "net" will automatically be less due to the bank and processing fees for collecting money via EFT.

I'm not saying "do it" or "don't do it" -- just saying that it is incumbent upon YOU to find out as much as you can about the financial commitment before you sign a franchise agreement. It's great if you love to dance and want to teach the program, but there's a whole 'nother side to the franchise that can leave you financially strapped (or worse) if you don't crunch your numbers and compare them against your own family finances.

Jazzercise

DON'T DO IT. I've been an associate/sub for almost a year, and it was the worst business decision I ever made! This franchise nickels and dimes you to death. You will make no money - in fact, you will lose money. Buyer beware!

Jazzercise vs. Zumba and R.I.P.P.E.D.

 

i know several Jazzercise Franchise owners.  They do not break even, in fact they spend more than they make and they are "captured" instructors.  " Captured" means that they are not allowed to teach any other type of group exercise. Jazzercise is the only one in the industry that captures it's instructors.   It is true that the administration is sorority-ish and do not manage negative commentary to Jazzercise in an appropriate business manner.  Franchisee's who do not "tow the line" and stay quiet about complaints are ostracized, something that would not occur in a normal business environment.  There is very low tolerance for differences or diversity.  The lawsuits regarding discrimination based on body size (too large) clearly exemplifies this bias;  http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=126114&page=1.  There is no place for this kind of thinking in today's world.  This company was founded when there was no diversity and diversity was still outlawed in some states.   Jazzercise is generally an expensive hobby, not a business,  for most of it's Franchisee's.   

In comaparision, Zumba, has seen a phenomenal growth all over the world.  Zumba classes are typically full of students moving to a sexy latin beat for sixty minutes and caters to all levels of fitness.  There is no weight training.  A typical scenario is that a student pays $5.00 per class which makes it financially worthwhile for the instructor.  

A new arrival on the scene is R.I.P.P.E.D. an aerobic wellness program that caters to all levels of fitness;  http://www.RIPPEDusa.com/. You can become an instructor for $189.00 -$269.00, similar to Zumba,  versus a whopping $2,000.00  for Jazzercise.   R.I.P.P.E.D. involves music set the the intensity of the workout and low impact moves with light weights that make the 45 minute workout very effective.  Students are loving the music and the workout.

Jazzercise fees increasing

Soon it will cost $2000 to buy a Jazzercise franchise, and class owners will have to pay 20% of the gross of each class (or a minimum of $250/mo.) back to the corporation. If you're thinking about earning a living or even a decent return on your investment, think twice about owning this franchise. There are also additional annual costs, such as liability insurance and music license fees, etc.

Owning a Jazzercise Franchise

"Owning" is really the wrong term to use for this franchise. You will never be in control as you would if it were really your own business. In fact, over the past few years this franchise has become micro-managed to the point of absurdity. There is very little you can do in regard to making your own decisions about how to run "your" business. The initial start-up fees are around $2000. If you are an associate or sub, you will get paid $10-$15 for each class that you teach for a class owner - if in fact you can get hired by a class owner to teach in the first place. And you have to teach at least 4 classes per month according to the latest rules, so if no one hires you you're in a real bind. If you become a class owner, you have additional fees - 20% of the gross of each and every class per month, with a minimum fee of $50/month. There are also bank fees to pay every month on each student who signs up for EFT. You'll have to find a place to rent, buy equipment such as weights, tubes, balls, mats, etc., a sound system that meets corporation guidelines, and if you choose to have a center - paint it the colors prescribed by the corporation, and follow other rules pertaining to the decor. And don't forget about the music license fees and liability insurance fees which are due every year. (Associates also have to pay a sub fee and liability insurance fees every year). There are numerous promotions throughout the year in which you will be expected to participate, since they are supposedly designed to bring in more students. However, the main purpose really seems to be the money they bring in for the corporation, from the promotional items they sell to the instructors at inflated prices.Then there are expenses for clothing, shoes, equipment, music, and numerous other incidentals. There are district meetings during the year which usually involve travel and hotel expenses, that you will be expected to attend at your own expense. There is no health insurance unless you pay for it yourself, no paid vacations, etc. So unless you have another source of income, don't count on this franchise to help boost your family income. In fact, it can drain you dry!

Your comments on Jazzercise franchisee ownership

Wow!! You nailed it on the head!! I wish I would have read your post 20 years ago! Jazzercise has proven to be locally very snarky and soroity'esque in it's dealings with franchisees whom choose to not go to the semi-annual "conferences" at the franchisee's complete expense. So that we could be talked into how to give corporate more income and pay ourselves less!
Once I resigned, I called the corporate "marketing" manager to express my issues with her and was promptly dismissed, with her saying, "Well if your class owner wants to pay the associate instructors $6.30 a class, and you and your fellow instructors accepted it, too bad"!!!!
Wow! My focus was always on the students and teaching an amazing Jazzercise class. It took a lot for me to walk away from this pyramid business concept, but I was not willing to have to put my family and myself in bankruptcy (Which has happened to fellow franchise class owners throughout the nation) to support a good concept that got greedy.

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Franchising Consultant

I think this is a great idea that can really flourish if you approach it with the right amount of passion and experience. Like a few members stated above me, this is a huge commitment that requires the right amount of experience to make your franchise flourish.

If you feel like this is a worthy commitment, I really recommend pursuing the assistance of a franchising consultant group. They'll be able to help you make sure that you're making all the right steps on the road to success for your business, plus provide you with the connections you need to franchising lawyers and the like.

I recommend Upside Group. Their experienced staff will be able to help you out indefinitely. Check them out at UpsideGroup.biz.

Happy Franchisee

To answer the question about the value of the franchise and why not do this on your own, Jazzercise provides every instructor with 25-30 new routines every 10 weeks with a professionally-made DVD. All the music is chosen and awesome, and we get printed notes on line.

I have been a sub and am now an owner. It's good advice to be a sub first. I make more money as an owner, but I also spend more time on the business side of things (advertising, promotions, etc.) which I enjoy. It's all about what you love. If you love the program and business, you will love it like I do.

I do have a full-time job other than being a Jazz owner, and it's true that to make enough money to live on, you need to be quite large, even with 2 or 3 Jazzercise centers (and there are owners out there doing that). I would LOVE to be one of those owners someday!

I do not think owning more

I do not think owning more locations brings more money. It's more overheads including more rents.

Unfortunately, too much of

Unfortunately, too much of these posts is true. I actually became and instructor twice. The first time, in 1982 BEFORE there were franchise fees. It was costly even then with all the equipment and other stuff that we needed to purchase. Still, I actually made a living at it. I quit because as the aerobics industry became more popular, the competition became stiffer and it became more difficult to sustain a living. The next time it cost me $600 for the francise fee. I became a sub and after working as a long-term sub for someone, she never paid me. I got back-logged with franchise fees and had to quit before I was terminated. As a sub, you still have to pay about $50 just to stay on the books. So, if you don't work one month, you're out $50. And you STILL need to pay for music, videos, etc. Loved the program, but hated the business.

Worst franchise

Jazzercise is the WORST franchise, there is no money to be made in this industry. I, too, taught for several years and have not been paid more than $7 per class to teach for the last 3 years. Jazzercise has consistently increased their fees and restrictions on instructors. In order to teach, you must attend at least one district meeting per year, ours was 6 hours away and always on a Sunday. They dictate what you get paid - tell the center owners only to pay instructors 20% of total income - split between all instructors even though they make you be an independent contractor and pay for expensive liability insurance and sub fees. You have to buy your own music 5 times a year. When you have a problem with getting paid very little, they tell you that you have a bad attitude and that you must not be teaching classes to the best of your ability. They want you to constantly try to get other women to buy into their franchise, and ostracize you if you refuse to do that. Our center owner has filed for bankruptcy 3 times due to this franchise, and the previous center owner I taught for filed for bankruptcy as well. Jazzercise, Inc does not care about this as they take their 20% of income via eft off the top. 20% CFF is one of the highest fees of any franchise.

what do you mean "you have to

what do you mean "you have to pay $50 bucks to stay on the books?" That can't be right??

It's correct.

You have to pay $50.00 minimum a month.

$50 to stay on the books and $500

And you have to pay $500 a month to stay on the books if you are a noninstructor owner. Go figure.

That's $6,000 a year.

That's $6,000 a year.

Jazzercise, Inc. was founded

Jazzercise, Inc. was founded by Judi Sheppard Missett, a professional jazz dancer. Missett was born in Iowa in 1944. As a toddler, she was pigeon-toed, and had to wear leg braces. Her doctor recommended the little girl take dance classes as therapy, and she took her first class at the age of three. Apparently her talent was evident from the beginning. Her mother especially encouraged young Judi, though it was difficult to find qualified dance teachers in the small town of Red Oak where the family lived. So her mother recruited dance teachers to settle in towns within driving distance of Red Oak, testking JN0-303 promising the recruits a place to teach, students, and offering her own bookkeeping and costume-sewing services. By the time Missett was ten years old, she was teaching dance herself. After she graduated from high school, she moved to Chicago and enrolled in the theater and dance program at Northwestern University. She began focusing on jazz dance, studying with the choreographer Gus Giordano. She traveled widely with touring shows, and ultimately began teaching jazz dance classes for her mentor Giordano. In 1966 she married a television news reporter, Jack Missett, and had a daughter, Shanna, in 1968. testking 642-566 Missett's professional career had taken her all over the world, and she continued to perform. But she also began to focus more on teaching. She was troubled, however, because so many of her students dropped out of her classes. These students were typically young mothers like herself, or married housewives. They wanted to take a class for the fun of it as well as to keep fit, but they did not have the ambition to become professional dancers. Their choices were either to take a high-powered class like Missett taught, or to take a calisthenics class. If the dance class was too demanding, they dropped out after a few weeks. Their other alternative, the calisthenics class, typically had only soft background music, testking 000-071 and Missett imagined it was dreary. Around 1969, she began developing jazz-based exercise routines that she thought fit somewhere between the two extremes. Her classes were meant to be enjoyable, musical, and good exercise. She did not critique form, as in a professional dance class, and she used a room without mirrors, to reduce inhibitions.

Jazzercise

I have been a Jazzercise instructor 14 years and have also worked as an aerobic instructor for various fitness centers, YMCAs, etc.... and here's the thing: You don't make any money. The rate an instructor is paid hasn't changed much, if at all, in 20 years. ($15-$20) Every year my account tells me that either I've broken even (Yeah!) OR like last year........"you spent $350 to teach".........it's time to retire. It's fun to teach but doesn't make any business sense.

It's true, instructors do not

It's true, instructors do not make much money - but you need to also calculate in that you are not paying to take classes or paying for a gym membership. So if you love teaching, performing, laughing, entertaining and motivating - then become a Jazzercise instructor and get paid to work out and have fun doing it.

So your paying to work...

So your paying to work...

I don't understand this

I don't understand this comment.

There is no way you can make money out of Jazzercise.

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It's too bad Jazzercise doesn't make money

I've always loved Jazzercise.  When I have been a member of  big clubs I always signed up for the classes.  I use to make the 6:00 a.m. class.  More fun than the equipment. 

Successful Franchisee

I'm not familiar with any stipulation about posting on boards such as this, so I will try to reply with a few points to your questions having been a Jazzercise Franchisee since 2003. - The fees for EFT charged to the franchisee are extremely competitive and reasonable. - Monthly fees can range from state to state, but the average is about $31/mo. - Reselling of footwear & clothing is permitted, but the franchisee is responsible for any additional permits/licenses needed locally for this. There is no incentive from Jazzercise Inc to sell these items, therefore it's done as a convenience to customers rather than a sales gimmick like some other franchise operations. - The new Business Only Franchise created a couple of years ago does allow one to be a Jazzercise Franchisee without needing to become an Instructor. Details on this can be found at jazzercise.com. - Many of your other questions are very subjective to each individual case and owner, so I can't answer those and feel I've given you the whole picture. One thing I can say is those who say "you don't make any money" or words to that effect, in my opinion are simply not following the business model and/or are only looking short-term. I.E. Wanting to sign the agreement and make a great profit the next week. Anything worthwhile in life takes time and elbow-grease, so those people, and i've met quite a few, are not willing to work for the rewards. Lastly, I want to comment about the recent Franchisee Meeting with the mirrors. It is true, each of us were given a small pocket mirror, so that each time we feel the urge to point a finger elsewhere (so is the American way), we first look at ourselves as owners before quickly saying "oh it's the economy" or "it's because of (blank)." Many times, WE are the reason that things are going well or not well, but rarely do people want to take accountability for their own successes or demise. The mirror bit I thought was a very creative way to get the point across. I still have mine right under my computer monitor :) It's a great franchise with low start-up costs that I would recommend to anyone that is looking to make a change in others' lives and getting paid to do it at the same time. I haven't looked back and it's been 6 great years. Hope this helps.

reply to: By Guest 2009-03-13 12:26

Honest feedback is important, but I do prefer your positive (and honest!) comments to the negative ones of others. I agree that the start-up costs are low, and a lot of your success depends on whether you can reach out to people and give them what they want, which are a few simple things: a healthy lifestyle, a great place to socialize every week and a sense of of belonging in a friendly, safe and comfortable environment. That's what I love about jazzercise, and that's what I hope to deliver one day. :)

Jazzercise

Thanks for your comments on this franchise. I have been thinking about a franchise for some time and am looking at Jazzercise as a possiblity once I move to a new state for full-time income. I realize there is alot of work to be had. I appreciate your honesty.

Why do you need a franchise to do this?

Well? Is the brand name really that valuable?

Look at how long Jazzercise

Look at how long Jazzercise has been around as a franchise, now you tell me if its valueable or not???

Jazzercise franchise

It has been around for 40+ years, but it is best not to look at this as a business that will necessarily be profitable for you. Be very careful before you put your money and time into this franchise.
Be there - done that.

Jazzercise franchise

Oops! I meant to say, "Been there - done that." Although some franchisees, especially those in larger cities, have been successful, there is a tremendous drop-out rate of people who aren't able to make this franchise work. And it has nothing to do with whether or not they are following the "business plan." The reason the franchise keeps on going is due to the never-ending recruitment of new franchisees - a very active part of the marketing strategy. And franchise owners are expected to conduct this recruitment on a continuing basis. There is much more to owning this francise than meets the eye upon first glance. If you do decide upon the franchise, you would do better to be an associate or substitute instructor, rather than a class owner. Even at that, I would say that you should not necessarily look at this as a money-making venture.

I completely agree with this

I completely agree with this comment. The lack of success of this franchise has nothing to do with following the business model. That is what Jazzercise wants the center owners to think. There are very few successful franchises out there. The only way to make money at this is to have classes in a free church and nobody in this day and age wants to sign up for that anymore. The centers have NOT been successful. Jazzercise completely uses the instructors, especially the subs to make a fortune off of their sweat, literally.
Jazzercise preys upon women who love to work out, but who do not necessarily have much business sense or background. Jazzercise is only supportive of instructors and center owners until there is a problem, and then they will not contact you or help you resolve any problem, they will just tell you that you are not following their "business plan" correctly, or that you are not teaching WOW classes. They offer no support to a struggling center. They are focused on their image only and will not help out a franchise if it is having problems.

This is correct. Do not have

This is correct. Do not have this franchise with 20% royalty each month. You won't make money forever.

I don't think people will

I don't think people will understand what 20% fee means.

Basically, you pay tax roughly 10%. I saw some business people moved for few % lower tax.

Plus, you pay 20% fee (royalty each month). Normal franchise fee is 5-10% maximum or lower.

Basically, this franchise

Basically, this franchise won't sustain longer.

People move to Yoga and Pilates nowadays, not aerobics.

Open Yoga place yourself without going through franchise.

Jazzercise franchise

I am in the process of pursuing a Jazzercise Instructor franchise. I am meeting with a gal in our area who has been in the Jazzercise business for 21 years. In March, she will be opening her 3rd Jazzercise class at one of our local fitness centers and is seeking instructors. In June, I will be retiring after 34 wonderful years as a Speech/Language therapist in the schools. I will not be depending on Jazzercise for full time income but am concerned about some of the comments on this site. As a retiree, I certainly do not want to lose money on this venture. Were you an instructor? Were there many instructors in your area?.I have attended Jazzercise classes in the past and really enjoyed them. I have actually taught aerobics in the past as an independent contractor. Thanks in advance for your reply

Jazzercise and income!

hello!
I am a veteran 22 year instructor and also a public school teacher. I own 17 classes per week and teach anywhere from 6 to 12 of them. Thank goodness some are low impact. I DO make money and pay my associates more than what has been quoted here.
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Jazzercise franchise

I am in the process of pursuing a Jazzercise Instructor franchise. I am meeting with a gal in our area who has been in the Jazzercise business for 21 years. In March, she will be opening her 3rd Jazzercise class at one of our local fitness centers and is seeking instructors. In June, I will be retiring after 34 wonderful years as a Speech/Language therapist in the schools. I will not be depending on Jazzercise for full time income but am concerned about some of the comments on this site. As a retiree, I certainly do not want to lose money on this venture. Were you an instructor? Were there many instructors in your area?.I have attended Jazzercise classes in the past and really enjoyed them. I have actually taught aerobics in the past as an independent contractor. Thanks in advance for your reply

I agree with this comment.

I agree with this comment. If you've never been a Jazzercise instructor then don't jump into owning classes/center owner. Pay the money to become an instructor ($1000), buy a microphone (average $300), buy insurance and sub fees (appx $240) and then teach as a sub for a full year, at least. Make sure you love Jazzercise enough to teach it before you own it.

I hate their music.

Always Cheap Loud 80' Pop or country music. Worst part? You have to pay for this.

Being a Jazzercise instructor is not like working at restaurant. At restaurant, you will make money from day one. Jazzercise? You have to pay lots of money to them to be an instructor. Then, how much do you make? $8-22 an hour, basically minimum wage. Actually, it's not even minimum considering the money you invest.

Please realize one thing: Aerobic with Boom box is not trend any more. Meditation, Yoga, Pilates are trend. You won't be able to see anyone under 30 in this business.

That is funny. Have you ever

That is funny. Have you ever even been to a Jazzercise class? I guess you haven't, because we certainly don't use any 80s music, or a boom box, nor have we ever used a boom box. It is music you hear on the radio, the hits of today, mixed with country and jazz. Our artists include Katy Perry, David Guetta, Michael Buble, Black Eyed Peas, LMFAO, Jason Mraz, just to name a few. Go and actually take a class before you spew off things that aren't true!

Not funny at all

I was a Jazzercuse student for years and years and loved it when I was in my 20's and 30's. I'm in my 50's now and tried to return to class a few years ago, While I never saw a boom box, I did not care for the music, it's obviously Shanna's taste and contains far too much hip hop. After being gone for so long, I found the classes to be like a cult, and the instructor was definitely into herself and basically taught to her friends instead of to the group, Jazzercise promotes itself as being a safe workout, but I never saw much injury prevention being demonstrated. Several women dropped out due to foot problems and I found all the jumping, pounding and lateral movement to be hard on my feet and knees. I tried to return to class a few more times because I remembered all the fun I used to have back in the day, but it just wasn't there any more. I was also lifting weights at the time and traininig hard at the gym, and there were also instructor put downs in regard to people who had gym memberships. I found that laughable because my gym membership was less expensive than a month of Jazzercise, and I had access to so much more. I would expect an instructor to be in denial in regard to any notion that the Jazzercise program may be flawed, but believe it or not there are people who don't like it, and I am speaking the truth.

I didn't know the artists

I didn't know the artists names. All I found was their musics are loud and tasteless.

This is one rude franchise not concerning neighbor businesses.

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