Pending Report Regarding Cuppys Coffee Controversy

I have just returned from an ‘Internet free’ few days away following the AAFD Annual Conference and have discovered that the Blue MauMau blogs have been actively ‘on top’ of the Cuppy’s Coffee presence at our conference. I wish to thank all of those who actually attended our conference for their fair and honest reporting. I found all such reports to be well intended and balanced, even those with which I do not completely agree.

The AAFD is apprised of the allegations that Cuppy’s Coffee has violated its franchise agreements and the AAFD’s Accreditation Standards. Within hours of the first disclosure of allegations that Cuppy’s was not honoring contractually promised refunds in the construction agreements of its affiliate, Elite Manufacturing, the AAFD was in communication with Cuppy’s management to assure that contractual commitments would be honored. The AAFD asked for access to investigate all claims, and Cuppy’s readily agreed (a demand was not necessary), as well as agreeing that the AAFD could mediate all disputes that were not readily resolved internally. Cuppy’s and its affiliate, Elite Manufacturing, also agreed to forthwith escrow all deposits subject to refund demands until the conditions triggering refunds had been satisfied.

It should be noted that Cuppy’s Coffee is recognized by the AAFD for having an AAFD Accredited Contract. The Cuppy’s franchise agreement (pdf, 49 pgs) substantially conforms to the AAFD’s Fair Franchising Standards, and provides significant rights to Cuppy’s franchisees. If Cuppy’s is found to be in violation of its contracts, there would be cause to suspend or withdraw AAFD Accredited Contract status. The AAFD has not approved or endorsed the Cuppy’s business model, or its efforts to support its franchisees. Several commentators have suggested that the AAFD needs to do a better job of differentiating what AAFD Accreditation means and doesn’t mean, and our inquiry includes an evaluation of how the AAFD can assure that our recommendations are not confusing in the marketplace.

The AAFD investigation is ongoing, and we expect to make a full report to the AAFD Board of Directors in July. However, this is what my personal investigation has revealed so far:

  1. Elite Manufacturing is a related company to Cuppy’s (whether there is common ownership is disputed). Elite was an approved builder of Cuppy’s Coffee units. Although franchisees were free to choose other builders, Cuppy’s recommended Elite and Elite was the only builder that offered 1) to refund deposits if a prospective franchisee was declined for financing, and 2) to pay the prospective franchisee’s franchise fee from the construction proceeds.

  2. It appears that Elite did not escrow deposits it received from prospective franchisees. While escrowing deposits would have been a prudent practice, holding onto the funds was not a requirement of the Elite agreement (or the AAFD’s Standards), and such a failure cannot be deemed a violation of the agreement. The AAFD Standards Committee is in the process of determining whether such requirement should be added to our standards.

  3. It further appears that during and after August of 2007 several prospective franchisees who met Cuppy’s lending criteria were, in fact, turned down for financing. Elite claims its problems stem from the US mortgage and banking crisis. It further appears that Cuppy’s and Elite’s first reaction was to attempt to preserve these deals, although it appears that both Elite and Cuppy’s readily admitted that it did not have sufficient cash resources to effect immediate cash refunds to all claimants.

  4. From the date of the AAFD’s knowledge of refund demands, the AAFD has sought to intercede on behalf of any claimant that sought assistance from the AAFD. Cuppy’s and Elite have both readily acknowledged the promised refunds, stated their intent to honor their commitments, agreed to escrow all deposits in the future, and to allow the AAFD to mediate all claims. The companies further readily agreed that the AAFD could monitor and investigate the companies’ efforts and to report our findings.

  5. To date, the AAFD has tracked 11 refund demands that have been reported on various Internet sites, or directly to the AAFD. Of these 5 have been fully settled, 4 have settlement documents approved and out for signature, and 2 are disputed claims. The company has also advised that there are a few additional refund claims that were also resolved without public scrutiny, although we have not yet seen the details of such claims.

  6. In late April, Cuppy’s and its related entities were sold to FranSynergy, led by Mr. Dale Nabors. Mr. Nabors has been candid in addressing the issues facing the companies, but has also given his vote of confidence with his pocketbook. Perhaps more important, Mr. Nabors has reaffirmed the commitment of Cuppy’s to honor its contracts.

The AAFD investigation will attempt to determine if Cuppy’s has acted in a commercially reasonable manner. The AAFD also has a Standard on confidentiality agreements which may well be relevant to our review. If anyone is aware of information that may be useful to the AAFD’s investigation, please submit it to the AAFD. The AAFD will not hesitate to take action if it finds that Cuppy’s has failed to honor its agreements. By the same token, I hope observers will recognize that having an AAFD Approved franchise agreement and AAFD due process has protected Cuppy’s investors, and if we find that Cuppy’s has honored its contractual commitments in an appropriate fashion, I will recommend that the AAFD take steps to recognize such efforts.

The AAFD offers two forms of accreditation. Our Fair Franchising Seal is available to mature franchise companies whose contracts and practices honor the AAFD’s Fair Franchising Standards. The AAFD has set the bar very high to earn our Fair Franchising Seal, and we have faced stiff competition from lesser ‘accreditations’ based solely on ‘franchisee satisfaction surveys’ that do nothing to promote franchisee rights.

In order to jump start the AAFD’s fairness initiatives, we also offer ‘Accredited Contract’ status for a franchise company that (for a variety of reasons) cannot yet qualify for the Fair Franchising Seal, but that is willing to offer a franchise agreement that substantially conforms to the AAFD Standards. This latter accreditation gives a ‘start-up’ franchisor a significant incentive to embrace fair franchising in the face a marketplace that sadly ignores the importance of a ‘buyer friendly’ franchise agreement. A company that earns Accredited Contract Status must qualify for the full Fair Franchising Seal within three years of Accreditation.

I believe that Accredited Contracts are the tool by which we will effectively reform the franchising community. Fair agreements will mean that franchisees actually have rights under the franchise agreement, as did the Cuppy’s franchisees who had a right of refund that is unprecedented in franchising!

The AAFD will soon publish the Cuppy’s franchise agreement so the world will know without question the kind of impact the AAFD’s negotiating leverage can have on a franchise system that is looking for an opportunity to compete in a crowded marketplace.

If a company earns AAFD Accreditation, it will be held accountable to honor its contractual commitments. This is happening with Cuppy’s. It is our system working as we intended.

As has been reported, the AAFD is a transparent organization that is dedicated to fairness in franchising – and if anyone takes the time to read the AAFD Fair Franchising Standards, you will understand that ‘fairness’ is a two-way street. The US Bill of Rights provides several powerful personal liberties. The rights to freedom of speech and freedom of the press are prized by Internet bloggers and journalists, although I fear these rights are being challenged by the reckless disregard by bloggers of other crucial rights – especially the right to a presumption of innocence until proven guilty, the right to ‘due process’ of an accused, the right to face one’s accusers, and the right to a fair and impartial trial by jury of one’s peers. It is unfortunate that we cannot offer “instant gratification” to those who demand it, but conclusions cannot be drawn until all of the facts have been investigated and resolutions pursued.

For those who question Cuppy’s right to be present at the AAFD’s Conference, I would remind them that ours is a free society. You have the right to judge, but the AAFD has the right to honor the principles of our Constitution, including Cuppy’s rights to face its accusers, to be accorded due process, to be tried by a jury of its peers and to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. That said, I should admit and disclose that both Mr. Nabors and Mr. Hibbing (who had signed on as part of our ‘cast’ months ago) offered to stay away from our conference so as not to cause me or the AAFD embarrassment. Based upon what I have learned so far, I see a young company with new management trying to do the right thing and to survive in a competitive world. Cuppy’s presence at the AAFD conference was solely at my urging.

I urge the readers of Blue MauMau, and similar communities where citizens enjoy the right of unabridged discourse, to always ‘consider the source.’ Be wary of those who hide behind anonymity, because we cannot discern or challenge motives, or hold such bloggers accountable for their version of truth and reality. But more importantly, please be wary of vigilante justice and ‘lynch mobs’ who are quick to blame without all the facts.

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Cuppy's FA

I agree that their franchise agreement is very good for the franchisees, but I'm not sure if this has been answered. 

Did these people that deposited money actually ever sign the franchise agreement?  I assume that they did, but most people just talk about the Elite purchase order that said it was refundable.  If so, how are these people included in the AAFD accredidation process, if Cuppy's decides to go that route.

Was the money from Elite ever transferred to Cuppy's account? 

Purchase order from Elite signed, not franchise agreement

From what I gather, I do not think the Cuppy's investors in question signed a franchise agreement so there is no protection of the AAFD accredited franchise agreement. As you point out, depositors speak of signing Elite's purchase order, not a franchise agreement, then they sent Elite Manufacturing tens of thousands to begin the process of finding real estate, purchasing equipment, etc.

Get this: There was a depositor that didn't even sign Elite's purchase order. They just sent a deposit with no conditions attached. I'm not a lawyer but I don't think there is much legal protection for so charitably giving money away and then saying you want it back.

If depositors signed the franchise agreement before they deposited funds, then naturally the AAFD and its agreement would kick in.

Anyone out there who has signed the AAFD accredited Cuppy's agreement that has not gotten their money back? Names please.

Parlez-vous Canuck?

JD and Darnelle raise 2 important points, ones which Webster has been trying to raise for the last few months (perhaps there was a problem with the translation from Canadian to english?).

Worth considering by those quick to propose litigation as the solution on the facts presented.

Paul Steinberg
Franchisee Attorney, New York City, Ph: 212-529-5400

My Canadian Is Rusty

The spelling from up north throws us off. I mean, "Labour Board"??? What's that?

I join Darnelle and jb in having to stop and think about that before getting to the meat—er, Canadian bacon—of Webster's message.

Les is from a part of Canada that is hard to understand.Translator needed.

Bob maybe

labor is spelled labour up north. I have seen stranger things in foreign countries. Like in Egypt you see many unfinished houses. Because if it isn't finished they do not have to pay taxes. If that was the law here in the states, I am sure it would be the same case. I wonder how they would spell labor in Egypt.

Question for Bob: Is this true?

AAFD awards Cuppy's Coffee award for fair franchising standards

AAFD awards Cuppy's for fair franchising standards

Did the AAFD award Cuppy's Coffee with the highest score ever achieved for Fair Franchising Standards? 

Also, do you know what month Cuppy's began using the "accredited" agreement exclusively? 

Sean Kelly
seankelly[at]ideafarm.net

Franchise  Pick
Franchisor Marketing

I think this is sad

very, very sad. The AAFD has lost their credibility in my opinion. Their seal of approval means nothing. After all the stories of people being ripped off. Double shame on them for not acknowleging the wrong doing in this franchise. There is something wrong with this picture.

When the people get their money back

then I promise to eat my words.

Eat your words

Then Do Diligence, you should start. As has been independently reported here on BMM, over the 30 days, NUMEROUS people have received refunds.

Let me hed off your excuse for not doinjg as you have stated, the refund terms, agreements, and amounts, that is strictly between Cuppy's and the franchisee, as is the custom in America.

You don't know that they received refunds

"As has been independently reported here on BMM, over the 30 days, NUMEROUS people have received refunds."
Independently reported? By whom? The AAFD is not independent, as they receive payments from Cuppy's.

"Let me hed off your excuse for not doinjg as you have stated, the refund terms, agreements, and amounts, that is strictly between Cuppy's and the franchisee, as is the custom in America."

Then how do you know NUMEROUS people have received refunds... or that anyone received refunds. How can the AAFD list numbers of people who "got their money back" but not say whether they got 5%, 10% or 50%, or had their "franchise fee" withheld.

If the legal agreement is unknown, don't say they got repaid. Or is honesty and logic no longer a custom in America?

Isn't the

franchise fee non-refundable? I thought all of this was about Elite owing money....not cuppys FF.

Grade Inflation

Yup, tis true.  I blame it on grade inflation. 

Michael Webster PhD LLB
Franchise News

Grade Inflation

Are you implying that they grade on a curve and that franchise agreements in general are so bad, that this is one of the least worst?

Oh, my god. In a country where people watch a show called "Are you smarter than a fifth grader" and are led by people who are not.

Is this all there is?

Funny... but the joke is on

Funny... but the joke is on the AAFD... at least if its leader think that they can build credibility by blowing more smoke.

"It further appears that during and after August of 2007 several prospective franchisees who met Cuppy’s lending criteria were, in fact, turned down for financing. Elite claims its problems stem from the US mortgage and banking crisis. It further appears that Cuppy’s and Elite’s first reaction was to attempt to preserve these deals, although it appears that both Elite and Cuppy’s readily admitted that it did not have sufficient cash resources to effect immediate cash refunds to all claimants"

Interpretation:  Cuppy's Coffee pre-approved people and told them they'd have no problem getting financing.  They knew almost immediately that they couldn't, but still withheld their money.  These people agreed to a VERY generous repayment schedule with very little due upfront.  Cuppy's Coffee has still refused anything but their absurd offer.

But Bob knows all this, don't you Bob?  Is this one of your "contracts out awaiting signatures"? 

Sean Kelly
seankelly@ideafarm.net

Franchise  Pick
Franchisor Marketing

And

the applicants lie on their pre-approval forms too. I have seen it a thousand times at the bank I work at. The Real Estate agents put in lots of time to help them find a house only for their person not to get financing. They say they have a big 401K when in reality can't touch it. They say they have more cash than they have. So here is the poor real estate agent out in the cold, lots of hours of work put in and no payday. Is that fair??? The same thing probably happens to the Zors. They should wait for their money back. At least the ones that lied should. If they had been honest they wouldn't have been pre-approved in the first place.

Pre Approved

Sean writes: "Cuppy's Coffee pre-approved people and told them they'd have no problem getting financing. They knew almost immediately that they couldn't, but still withheld their money."

Bud, this is a very serious allegation. Maybe some back office staff could back it up?

Michael Webster PhD LLB
Franchise News

Pre-Approved Financing

As many who have in the last 12 months tried to buy a house, car or get any other type of loan will tell you, the credit terms have tightened at an astonishing pace.

Just because I was PRE-APPROVED with a 700 credit score, for $150,000, at an acceptable rate 2 months ago, doesn't mean that I can still get those same terms today, unless the day that I was PRE-APPROVED I signed the commitment letter with the bank.

Getting FULL APPROVAL and a commitment letter from a bank for a 6 figure loan doesn't happen overnight. Also, if it is an SBA loan, there is additional paperwork and processing. All of this requires time.

So, there COULD HAVE been people that at one-time were PRE-APPROVED, but by the time that they were ready to commit to a loan, no longer met the lenders requirments.

Everyone can get financed somewhere, but most people prefer to pay Mr. Smith at Reconized National Bank, the interest and principal on a loan, rather than paying Vinnie at the Local Pool Hall the vig plus the nut!

Pop Quiz: multiple choice

Guest says:  So, there COULD HAVE been people that at one-time were PRE-APPROVED, but by the time that they were ready to commit to a loan, no longer met the lenders requirments.

Yes.  And there COULD HAVE been a person at the company in question who filled out the pre-application questionaire incorrectly, preapproved the franchisee, accepted the refundable deposit and shortly thereafter was notified of the mistake by the lender.  And the company COULD HAVE spent the money rather than giving it back.

Which happened?  Hypothetically?

Sean Kelly
seankelly@ideafarm.net

Franchise  Pick
Franchisor Marketing

Multiple Choice

Again Sean you are just twisting words.

I never stated that the form was filled out incorrectly. I stated that between the time that the person sent in the finacial qualifications, to see if they even qualified, and the time that they agreed to terms with a bank, which could take weeks or months, that THEN they no longer met the former pre-approved criteria.

A pre-approval is just that PRE. This is an assesment based on a snapshot of the person's financial picture. A FULL approval and a commitment letter from a bank ONLY OCCURS after a complete and DOCUMENTED assesment of a person financial condition. Every bank is going to do a through assesment when lending 6 figures plus.

Also, I am sure that some people may have overstated their financial situation, and when asked to document it, the numbers didn't add up.

This is not hypothetical. As I stated, people that were pre-approved for ANY type of loan 2 to 6 montha ago, MAY not meet the lenders CURRENT criteria.

Hmmmmm, curious that seems to happen on self promoting websites too...How much traffic do you state that YOUR website receives and how much REAL TRAFFIC can you document. Just a question...

Incorrectly filled out

Are you saying that somebody deliberately lied?
What do you mean by "incorrectly" and "mistake"?
Did the loan applicant participate in this "incorrect" loan application submission?

Spent the Money

Sean; I don't understand this question.  They spent the money, gambling that the person would get financing.  Are you saying that you have knowledge of this franchisor knowing that individuals would not get approved and taking their deposit?  That would be very serious - and you may want to discuss this with me privately. 

Michael Webster PhD LLB
Franchise News

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• Kathy
May 7, 2008 at 7:29 pm
I am Arlington. We opened in July 2007 and closed March 2008. I’m surprised that Temple is already up for sale. I didn’t think it had already opened.

-http://www.franchisebusinessforsale.com/franchises/index.html
Major Coffee Franchise (in Prime Mall Location) for Sale Location: Central, TX Telephone: 619-442-4441

• Kathy
May 7, 2008 at 10:37 am
I am one in Texas that closed, but there was another before me. I’m not sure how many more are out there. The President of Cuppy’s told me that it’s more than 4 and less than 10 when I asked him how many stores besides mine that are on the verge of closing and that was in December 2007. Who knows the state of the sales now.

CUPPY'S WHAT IS YOUR DEFENSE? THEY ARE NOT ALL HEALTH RELATED. TELL THE TRUTH!

Cuppy's 'Rights'?

Bo-

Who was questioning Cuppy's Constitutional "right" to attend your little love fest? I thought the 'lynch mob' was commenting on how utterly inappropriate and shameful it was to have them present? Forget legality and corporate veils. How could you ethically accept a penny from them toward attending this event while a single Cuppy's/Java/Elite penny remains owed to anyone?

Your 'urging' their attendance pretty much underlines how clueless you are about this whole affair and how much it has damaged (and continues to damage) many hard working people who are forced to service debt from these deposits while these people drink, sing and dance in their faces instead of returning their deposits in full - immediately.

You just don't get it. You are the ultimate, ineffective sort of self-important diplomat. As if Cuppy's presence before the 'King' was what is needed in order to strike a solution for all of the poor people who were scammed. This all could have been handled in a 5 minute phone call conducted by the likes of someone with Richard Solomon’s tact.

Admit your mistakes and learn from them. I suggest that you correct your “lynch mob'”analogy. Besides some emotional comments, I challenge you to cut and paste examples of lynch mob actions. All I’ve read is some good old investigative research and reporting - and the AAFD offering Twinkie defenses for an unworthy defendant.

Dumb Call

Guest writes: "This all could have been handled in a 5 minute phone call conducted by the likes of someone with Richard Solomon’s tact."

I will personally pay RS's five minute rate, if he phones anyone and gets this sorted out. Heck, I will even pay his rate in real money - Canadian Dollars.

Michael Webster PhD LLB
Franchise News

5 minute call

If someone with or without tact can handle the problem in a 5 minute call, then have that person call.

No one can call and get money that isn't there.

Sean is absolutely correct. People like the ones we are discussing do not observe franchise accounting rules. Escrows are not created - at any level - to account for unearned fees/deposits. The money probably went up somebody's nose.

If you don't like Sean Kelly you aint shit!--

Richard Solomon, FranchiseRemedies.com,  has over 45 years experience with franchise litigation and crisis management. He is a graduate of The Citadel and The University of Michigan Law School

Overhead

Company had a 1:1 ratio of staff to stores, a full time lawyer and other excessive overhead. Mismanagement can be more expensive than a drug habit.

That's where the money went.

Re: No one can call and get money that isn't there.

If the money isn't there now, then litigation won't make it appear either.

Calling won't make the money appear, litigation won't make the money appear, but Purvin and the AAFD get called Alvin & The Chipmunks when they have partial success and continue to try for more.

Gotta luv that BMM bitchin'

5 minutes is nothing if you're steadfast in your beliefs

I think the attempted point trying to be made is that if someone more forceful and absolute was in charge of the AAFD, they would tell the franchisor to make good on getting these people their refunds or don't bother attending. They would have also suspended Cuppy's accreditation months ago and placed the burden on the franchisor/violator instead of on the individuals and investigators. This would have taken all of 5 minutes during a phone call to accomplish.

For instance, why do individuals need to piecemeal their claims and grievances together? Webster and the AAFD is counting on the victims to come forward. Why? Don’t the new owners of Cuppy’s/Elite have all the records of deposit and transactions? Do they not have copies of all of the gage agreements?

The AAFD is playing a game of battleship with Cuppy’s. Why doesn’t the AAFD demand full disclosure from the franchisor instead of only asking for information on the already publicized claims? Of course Cuppy’s “readily agreed” – The AAFD is playing along.

The AAFD isn't the Supreme Court of Franchise Fairness and it shouldn't be acting like an entity that must follow standards of law when it comes to maintaining accreditation. Hell, someone mentioned the NCAA a while back. The NCAA certainly isn’t the UN now does it allow due process to get in the way. If a member school is even suspected of a violation, the NCAA publicly announces the investigation and places the school in the position of proving their innocence; self sanction, etc. (Except if your initials are USC). If you want to reap the benefits of the NCAA, you play by their rules. Shouldn’t the AAFD do the same?

The AAFD is a private club and it should zealously protect their supposed fair standards when an accredited member cheats, abuses and defaces their good name. There is no obligation to provide due process. Like someone else just noted, if the AAFD wants to rise above what is merely “legally acceptable” behaviors and wishes to represent true fairness, etc. it should shed the lawyers and their complicated legal loopholes. Simplify the issues by viewing these matters with a common sense litmus test. Use a filter of decency instead of blindness towards what is right and fair. I thought the AAFD accreditation was supposed to represent a haven from abusive practices, opaqueness and legal manipulation. Instead the AAFD looks like a breeding ground for these behaviors in the case of Cuppy’s.

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