Quiznos New CEO Dave Deno Speaks
Dave Deno, the newly promoted CEO of Quiznos speaks about why growth has slowed, store profitability and franchise relations. Judging from the answers, it is evident that Quiznos leaders are scratching their heads to answer how to tame their mountain of franchisee discontent.
CEO Deno tells reporter Dina Berta of Nation's Restaurant News that Quiznos is looking to build multi-unit operators in addition to their current chain characterized by small, single-unit mom & pop shops.
Will having more experienced multiunit operators help with franchisee relations?
Deno: My whole career has been about great relationships with franchisees. I could never figure out why systems argue with each other when they should be united to beat the competition. Let’s get the system unified and behind the great Quiznos brand. We are increasing communication with franchise owners and working on expanding with multiunit operators.
Deno's answer to uniting franchisees is by increasing multi-unit franchise owners that are more receptive to the corporate message. If increasing communication means simply sending more corporate messages to franchise owners, then change is not in the air for a network that has become known as one of the industry's most heavy-handed in relations between a franchisor and its franchisees.
The interview continues:
What is Quiznos doing to improve franchisee profitability?
Deno: Every day we’re trying to reduce costs for the franchise owner. Our purchasing organization is locking in prices. We’ve gotten away from doing a lot of couponing. Instead, we introduced the $5, $7 and $9 sandwiches as well as our $2 Sammies [flatbread sandwiches]. Our transactions are up significantly.
Say what?? Deno seems to say, "Let me answer your question about increasing the franchisee's bottom line . . . Uhm, our top line is up significantly through $2, $5 and $7 sandwiches."
Such answers fall short of the mark for a CEO of such a large chain. They are short and provide little meat.
But there is a ray of hope. It is in this message:
Deno: "My whole career has been about great relationships with franchisees."
Such a sentiment sounds like Quiznos' new CEO may not want a franchise relationship mess during his turn at the wheel. Engaging and listening to the Quiznos independent franchisee association, TSFA, would be a good start instead of terminating dissenting leaders and ignoring the association. Stopping the flood of franchisee legal torts would be another.
More messages from corporate won't do a thing.
Quiznos' franchisees, what do you think of the interview?












George W. isn't the onlt idiot
I have personally forced two Quiznos into closure and am now working on my third I know an associate who just shut one down and I know that 9 others in the area all shut down...Trying to steal anothers thunder will get you struck by lightning suckers.
That is amazing
a human taught you how to type. But tell me the truth ... someone gave you the answer to the math question that allowed you to post. Perhaps you could get them to teach you how to spell your name and then you could register here. No hurry .. just try ... but be patient ... you will get there. And your parent will be so proud.
Cee B
Quiznos imploding, hard to watch
It is a shame what is happening to Quiznos. I became friends with a franchise owner about a year ago. The $5 head-to-head strategy vs. Subway was a disaster that Crisper's and Panera had the good sense to sidestep. Instead of pitching what is better about Quiznos food, Brenahan went full tilt with "Just as cheap as Subway!" I guess he doesn't realize how bad Subway food tastes. Maybe he doesn't know anything about sandwiches.
The Quiznos menu is ridiculously confusing. No one knows what "Signature" or "Classic" means. The menu should use meaningful, easily comprehensible groupings. The entire sales process need to be re-engineered so a salesperson interacts with the customer to nail down the order - size, bread, meat, sauces, cheese, veggis - and get the money. The production employees then fill the order without interacting with the customer again.
Quiznos corp appears to only care about getting their 11% while the franchisees are left to deal with fixed rent payments and no profit every month. This strategy will destroy the business. It is painful to watch the chain being destroyed by bad corporate management. My friend's restaurant is for sale now, like so many others.
Quiznos Imploding
Much better to watch from the sidelines than work in one of these every day watching stupid decision after stupid decision being made. Executives are in a revolving door at corporate. The new executive of the month is introduced to the franchise community as somebody who had a great career heading into the new Quiznos position. Problem is, these morons come in and throw their "strategy" to the wall and nothing sticks.
Open Quiznos at 4400 - And Falling
Well, here's the latest about the world's fastest contacting QSR and it isn't pretty.
Quiznos Franchisees Walloped by Recession
For the Qtard who questioned me concerning how many Q restaurants are currently open; read the article and apologize. You shouldn't write degrogatory things unless YOU can back it up. I obviously can.
Tricky Dick Emmett is mentioned in the story as Senior VP Dick rather than as Legal whatever Dick. It's not a good sign that a lawyer whose knowledge of running restaurants is even less than his law knowledge is answering questions concerning operations. Where was Dino at? Of course, Dino is an accountant whose knowledge of running a restaurant is probably no better than Emmet's.
There is no magic bullet on the horizon for this chain. And when Quiznos starts promising variety and value franchisees start worrying. Q is already trying to mandate $5 larges and $3.99 small prime ribs. How much more "value" is left to offer? The problems with this chain are easy to dissect. The costs are too high, "Chef" Zach hasn't created a winner yet, the quality stinks, and the profits are non-existant for FRANCHISEES.
Until the costs are inline with the competition - which means cutting at least 15% off the top - than this chain is will continue to disintegrate.
Prvost Gone, Brenneman Gone
The self-proclaimed Dream Team is falling apart. We have an organization that is splitting apart at the seams. Executives leaving for unknown reasons being replaced with even less experienced people.
Here it is in a nutshell. The Quiznos business model is broke. Corporate knows it, franchise owners know it. It's no secret. These Bozos picked a fight with Subway, got their noses bloodied and are now in full retreat. Of course the true losers here are the owners who had to shut their doors because of being put in the middle of a no-win battle with Subway.
I would not be surprised to see the help desk personnel have a V.P. on their title sometime soon.
How Gone Is Brenneman?
How gone is Brenneman? Is he just attending (quarterly??) board meetings? Does he still have an office at HQ?
Food Rebate
We now receive rebates from Quiznos based upon our past purchases from the warehouse. Quiznos now seems to recognize they are negotiating for the benefit of the franchise community and the rebates are due to franchisees. My question follows: Does anyone believe Quiznos owes back rebate money to franchisees for the years they didn't give our money back to us? I realize it's a legal question but would like some opinions here.
Food rebate
They are giving rebates on purchases but still charging a very substantial distribution fee for food and supplies they never actually touch. This is a very big number that they have calculated intot their cash flow so don't plan on seeing any of this or any other monies any time soon.
re: Food Rebate
Quizkillingme said:
Does anyone believe Quiznos owes back rebate money to franchisees for the years they didn't give our money back to us?
Absolutely without a doubt.
They can call it ‘distribution fees’ or ‘markups’, I could care less. It is an added cost not mentioned in part of the contract or UFOC.
food rebate
Don't hold your breath!
Re: Open Quiznos at 4400 - And Falling
As a new franchisee in Canada I am very saddened to hear all of this negativity. I have poured everything that I have worked for my whole life into 2 franchises. Is Canada perceived as having such a difficult time also with making a profit. I am very very sad and I can only hope they turn this around. Does anyone here have an email address which with I can contact them to enquire more about this situation. It would be greatly appreciated. I am quite nauseated now. :(
Quiznos closings
Expert Quiznos ranter said that 600 plus stores have closed since Januray 1st. He backs up that claim by an article that claims that 150 Quiznos has closed this year. Let me see, your 600 plus closed stores is over four times the amount which you say proves that you are right. My five year old has more common sense than you.
More Quiznos Layoffs
The current assault on the Quiznos system by David Dino, Greg Brennenman and the The Dicks isn't just limited to franchisees. Dino recently layed off 20% of the corporate Quiznos staff as the "fastest contracting QSR" continues to downsize.
Now I feel bad when anyone loses his/her job, however, I know for a fact that the attitude of the staff in Denver concerning franchisees was very poor. When I was there for "training" most treated me like some kind of low level employee rather than an investor who had invested 250k into the Quiznos system. They consistantly tried to convince me and other new franchisees that high food costs, unaccounted for ad budgets, and agressive couponing and giveaways was how ALL restaurant systems operated and that if I objected it was because I didn't understand how to operate a business. They tried to sell the idea that "Penny Profits" and sales were more important than restaurant profitability as the measure of franchisee success.
I knew better and they knew better. Now they're feeling the pain they have subjected franchisees to for all these years. I take it back. I don't feel sorry for this group of Qtards. What goes around comes around and I hope they enjoy losing everything they have trying to survive on $250 a week.
Quiznos Food Rebate Check
I'm sending my Quiznos rebate check back to corporate and I encourage all franchise owners to do the same. I will ask that corporate executives buy some common sense with that money because they are severely lacking in it.
Plenty of Greed, Little Else At Quiznos
Common sense will always be in short supply in Denver. But if enough of you send the checks back maybe Quiznos will rehire some of those poor souls that they layed off on Friday.
hahahahahahahahahahah.
Forget it. Keep the checks, small as they are. Dino, The Dicks, and the rest of the Q-tards will just add whatever is sent back to the bottom line.
Do you think those now pounding the pavement were given a few coupons in their final pay envelope?
Ranting Quiznos poster
This is the same guy who keeps saying that "X" number of Quiznos have closed this year and now we have 20% of Quiznos employees laid off. Throw out whatever number you like. Why not say 99% of Quiznos are unprofitable and 99% of Quiznos corporate employees are now working for free?
Re:Ranting Quiznos poster
From a registered member, who also is a Q owner .........
Q laid off 20% of their workforce on Friday. That's a fact!
How do I know ? I asked the consultant who replaced our local consultant, who was laid off.
Q has lost several hundred stores just this calendar year.
Estimated range is 600 - 900. And no, you will never get an exact answer from Denver.
Just drive around your city, and you are sure to see one or two boarded up.
20% Laid Off
"Q laid off 20% of their workforce on Friday. That's a fact! How do I know ? I asked the consultant who replaced our local consultant, who was laid off." - Guest
Thank you.
I'm assuming "local consultant" is what the Quiznos system calls a field operations manager, an employee of the franchisor corporation who consults local franchises on operational issues. Is that correct?
WOW 20%
Did not know that corporate employed 20% of their workforce as "local consultants". Next thing we'll hear is the help desk was laid off and that amounted to 50% of the workforce.
Re: WOW 20%
Huh?
No one said what you just said that 20% of the workforce are 'local consultants'.
Let's elevate the discussion guys and gals.
Yes WOW 20%
No matter what the number of employees, no matter what the business, when a business cuts 20% of its workforce it's a pretty good indication that it's poorly run and that business aint good. When a business shuts down its training arm you can bet it's because there aint enough students. In the case of Quiznos, that would be new franchisees. When a business is basically giving its product away through deep discounts and coupons its to lower inventories - either because of poor sales or signing contracts to buy more than you need. Either way it indicates a major problem in how Quiznos is operated. That IPO that Brennenman talked about when he came onboard is looking more and more like a pipedream.
20% work force
Sorry,
A 20% cut in work force does not necessarily indicate a poorly run business. It could simply be fluctuations in the market.
If they cut the training division completely, one must wonder what thought process took place to make that call. Are they assuming they will not sell any more franchises?
Re: 20% work force
Ex-zee wrote: "A 20% cut in work force does not necessarily indicate a poorly run business. It could simply be fluctuations in the market."
A 20% RIF in a day is a shockwave - given the fact that Q was not a bloated organization by any stretch.
It is indicative of the failure of the business model.
If "X" percent (pick a number) of the stores could not turn a profit under the model, it had to catch up with corporate at some point.
The sad part is throughout the decline, Q's attitude is "we have done no wrong ".
And on the Friday VM update, they will spin this event as improving operational efficiencies, to enhance store owners profits !
20% Of The Workforce Is History
And as franchisees we know that profitability is only a concern to Dino, Brennanman, and the The Dicks when it's corporate profitability. Franchisee profitability is not a consideration in anything Quiznos does. Using our money to generate giveaway coupons, cutting retail prices to the bone and trying to make them mandatory while simultaneously raising wholesale prices to franchisees, cutting quality to the point that we're selling meatballs made from chicken pressure washed off the bone. And then blaming franchisees when they can't survive the above; as well as the policy of putting Q's on top of each other so they're cannabalizing sales.
No one has bothered to mention the IPO that Brannenman was touting when he joined Quiznos. Nor has anyone mentioned the Wall Street investors who invested in Q with the idea that they would make millions in taking the company public. Cutting staff to the bone is another trick by slick corporate fatcats like the Dicks to pump up the bottom line for a quarter or two.
Meatballs
I thought the meatballs were turkey based or are you implying that there are a bunch of chickens putting pressure on the turkeys to get the meat off their bone?
Chile
The "all beef" chile is made with turkey parts. The "all beef" meatballs are made from a paste made up of chicken parts that are pressure washed off the bone. Quiznos goes all out when it comes to quality. That's one way Dino and the Dicks look out for franchisee profitability. hahahahahahahahahaha
re: local consultant
Darnelle asks:
I'm assuming "local consultant" is what the Quiznos system calls a field operations manager, an employee of the franchisor corporation who consults local franchises on operational issues. Is that correct?
Darnelle,
It is hard to say on that one. Quiznos has had many different names for their 'field operations managers' depending on what territory and what year:
1. Area Directors (started out as consultants as well)
2. Franchise consultants
3. Franchise field trainers
4. Franchise business leaders
In my area, the 'field rep' changed quit often along with the title.
John Q. Public
Quiznos Exposed Again
To the Qtard guest and Darnalle - looks like I was right again. Before you both go off half-cocked again please do a little research. I'm here to provide good, quality information, not write term papers for those too lazy or too in bed with quiznos to do anything other than post on this site.
Oh and by the way - QU, Quiznos University, is no more. That's the group that pushed the Dicks agenda of "penney profits", agressive couponing, and discounts to franchisees. I guess you really don't need a training school when there's no one to train, eh?
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Prove Poster Is Wrong
Who says it's the same guy/gal? Me thinks thou protests too much. This poster obviously has some inside information. You seem like an insider as well. If you have something to say to debunk what the poster has written than please do so. If not don't waste everyone's time by spewing dribble.
Guests Just Flapping Jaws Unless They Can Provide Evidence
For the few of us power readers that skim through the comment area, it confirms again that guest postings are the ones to ignore.
To our wacky thinking guest, who thinks that the obligation is on someone else to prove them wrong. Consider this . . .
Since they are anonymous, guests are particularly under scrutiny to provide evidence to almost anything they say.
The original poster stated they were a Quiznos franchise owner. That provides credibility when talking about their experience. It still is incumbent on that poster to provide credible evidence if they make claims for the franchisor's performance in lay-off percentage.
Any reasonable reader will want to know how a Maine franchisee (let's say for argument) knows that 20% of the staff in Denver was laid off. Are they estimating this from the way the voice bounces off the walls when they place a phone call to the support center because they are assuming this is obviously due to a lack of warm bodies to absorb the sound?
JFK was killed by LHO, who was working for Jack Ruby,
who was Sam Giancana's man in Texas. The mob had paid Joe Kennedy a lot of money to get Bobby Kennedy off Jimmy Hoffa's back. Joe died within minutes of receiving the money, and Bobby never got clued in.
The hit on JFK was revenge for the Kennedys taking the mob's money and not delivering on their promise to "fix" Bobby.--
Richard Solomon, FranchiseRemedies.com, has over 45 years experience with franchise litigation and crisis management. He is a graduate of The Citadel and The University of Michigan Law School
JFK Conspiracy
I thought movie mogul Oliver Stone proved once and for all that the JFK assassination was actually a coup d' etat by VP Lyndon B. Johnson.
Inquiring minds want to know - was the mob in on the coup? And did the franchise industry play a part? Solomon will give us the real scoop to these hidden mysteries of history.
There was no coup. Kennedy took mob money and didn't deliver.
End of story
Richard Solomon, FranchiseRemedies.com, has over 45 years experience with franchise litigation and crisis management. He is a graduate of The Citadel and The University of Michigan Law School
Quiznos Guest Flapper
Quiznos guest flapper throws out comments about store closures, layoffs, to help him deal with the fact that he is a failed Quiznos operator. It makes him feel good to say that a thousand Quiznos have failed. Who knows, maybe he believes his own postings.
Hey TIF
Good to see you back in here again. attaboy!
Quiznos Layoffs
Spoken like a true Qtard
Nananananana
Hey you two, just remember: It takes one to know one. Qtard that is.
Now can we get out of kindergarten?
More Empty Promises From Dino and Quiznos
Well, another week, another voice mail and more empty promises. Promises to not cut quality - how could you cut the quality anymore than you already have? Pressured washed chicken parts in the meatball isn't as low as you can go? Pressed ham, pressed turkey, turkey meat pepperoni, turkey chile, canned quality soups.
Promises to increase franchisee profitablity - of course there was nothing about cutting food costs. Only a big cut will tell franchisees that Dino is serious about franchisee profitability. Until then the talk about franchisee profitability is just that, talk.
David Dino is an accountant. He has no clue how to run a restaurant, how to develop product; but as an accountant he does understand that high costs are killing off Quiznos restaurants at a frightful rate. That makes him no better than the Dicks.
My God, man! Did you expect
something different?--
Richard Solomon, FranchiseRemedies.com, has over 45 years experience with franchise litigation and crisis management. He is a graduate of The Citadel and The University of Michigan Law School
Quiznos Truth Squad
No, but Dino can't be allowed to spew the lies with no rebuttal. Unchallenged lies soon become facts if told often enough and convincingly enough. Dino and Brennenman are born liars, the Dicks are convicted.
Quiznos vs Subway
Quiznos corp has made the HUGE mistake of competing against Subway, Jimmy Johns, etc. Our cheese and meat is fresher, cut daily and more expensive...theirs is processed and less expensive. We have 18 (that's right EIGHTEEN) dressings that we have to buy...they have 3 or 4. We have 10 different chips...they have 2 or 3 (I think). We carry 18 (that's right, EIGHTEEN) bottled drinks in our deli case...most Jimmy John's and Subways only sell fountain drinks and don't even have a deli case. We pay Muzac $46.30 every month for music while most Jimmy Johns and Subways just play an easy listening FM radio station with NO monthly charges.
I can go on and on but I believe everyone gets the picture. The only comparison between Quiznos and Subway and Jimmy Johns is that we are all QSR's and sell subs. Quiznos corporate tries to compete with Subway while our cost of doing business is quite a bit higher then theirs is. On top of all this...Subway spends a lot more for advertising (cause they are so big that they can) and their marketing team is a lot SMARTER then Quiznos marketing team. Instead of coming up with some unique promotions or advertising, all they seem to do is what Subway does...not even considering the our increased cost of doing business.
If anyone thinks that Quinzos is a QSR franchise, they are wrong. In reality...Quiznos is a Food Distribution business with FO's across the country not being partners, but rather....their CUSTOMERS.
This could all be corrected but Quiznos Corp has NO intention of changing anything. They are making way too much money...most of which is ours and not our customers.
I likes the Quiznos
yall's foods is soo good I cant help but eat it all the times. Although i be puttin on all this weight, maybe if I loss it all yall can make me liek that subway guy and say how great stuff is for fat people and you can get more money. I just take some free samiches
Q's Substandard Food Quality
I don't brag about our quality anymore. In my opinion we're no better than Subway or JJ's. The only real difference I see is the price we pay Quiznos to serve substandard product. If I had wanted to serve a cheap sandwich with cheap product I would've bought a Subway.
Quiznos Vs. Subway
How could our food prices be higher and how could we carry so many dressings? I remember when Brenneman came on board and promised lower food costs, menu simplification, increased profitability, and a listening ear to franchisees concerns.
Long story short is he either he didn't have the power to change things or did not have any intent on changing things from the beginning. Bottom line is that we are worse off now.
Open Quiznos Well Under 5000
The approximate number of Quiznos open for business is 4400...and falling. That number, by the way, doesn't take into account the hundreds of additional stores that were churned by Q because of franchisees who were forced to walk away. This chain is dying and the promises don't work anymore. Mr. Dino, cut the costs of doing business to Subway and JJ's level and do it NOW if you want to save yourself, the chain, and the franchisees.
Open Quiznos
Where do you gather the information about stores closed?
Open Quiznos Closed Quiznos
Check the story about the Quiznos lawsuit currently on the home page and that story has it at 4600. They're a little high and they're wrong about the direction. Q's are closing now because the tight credit and its own reputation have combined to end the churning. And no one in their right mind would buy one. Two more sources of revenue have disappeared for the Qtards.
My Reply
Deno says: I could never figure out why systems argue with each other when they should be united to beat the competition. Let’s get the system unified and behind the great Quiznos brand.
I say: Unity goes both ways. If systems argue, chances are one side isn't listening.
Deno's answer to uniting franchisees is by increasing multi-unit franchise owners that are more receptive to the corporate message.
I say: If more single unit operators were profitable, you would've had an increase in multi-unit ownership.
Deno: "My whole career has been about great relationships with franchisees."
I say: Deno, you have a lot of work to do before you will see great relationships with franchisees in this chain. Even though you stated in a letter you will never recognize the TSFA, you could change your mind and maybe the healing process will begin a little quicker.
I believe the TSFA has more members than corporate cares to recognize. Everytime they screw up, we grow.
John Q. Public
The TSFA Is Coming
And the more members we get the more worried Mr. Dino should get. The day of reckoning is coming and the light will shine down on you and the rest of the dogs..er..rats.
Personally, I'm more interested in the documents, the emails, the correspondance, the backroom notes; all the incriminating evidence that will be uncovered during the discovery and eventual trial(s). And once one crook starts singing they'll all start singing. You my friend have been setup to take the fall.
If you and Brennenman had any integrity you would be in contact with the TSFA legal team to provide information to help those who have been financially and emotionally destroyed by the Q. That is if either of you had any integrity.