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RE: Counting angels on the head of a pin?

Submitted by Truth in Franchising on Fri, 2008/08/01 - 08:46.

Guest writes - You are correct in a very technically legal sense, but not in a practical sense.

If the Zor cannot supplyn the Zees, what happens? What happens when the trustee is tasked with the advertising schedule? Nothing, that's what. It is a 7, not an 11 so there IS no trustee managingt he business and running it. The court only administers a sal. That is all tghat is being managed.

If the assets sold at bankruptcy auction are bought by someone who is similarly incapable of managing the brand, who is going to force the franchisees to do anything? No one.

If the Zor could not make enogh money off the royalties from the franchise agreements to keep afloat, it is not very likely that someone else will want to pay anything of value for themas a going concern. If they are sold for pennies, maybe someone ca make a run of it, but I would not expect it. If the reale state were valauble, maybe it makes sense. Maybe.

Reply - You have no friggin idea of what you are talking about. What you have written is pure speculative nonsense. Whether you like it or not there is value in the franchise agreements and leases that could be acquired by a buyer. And the court will protect those assets without much regard for any real or percieved suffering by franchisees. Bankruptcy is protection; protection for the entity going bankrupt and the estate. It cares nothing for the franchisees who are not creditors.

Your naivete is supreme!

The Truth Shall Set You Free!

TIF

There He Goes Again

Submitted by Guest on Fri, 2008/08/01 - 12:13.

Tif, why can't you just reply to a post without telling the poster what an idiot and how stupid he or she is? Why do you have to drag every discussion you respond to, down to such a base level? Act like a man, not some insecure wimp that can only build himself up by tearing down others. Do you expect a reasoned reply from the poster after your childish antics? If anyone responds to you like that, your panties get in a bind and you post some angry, name-calling reply. Grow up, man.

RE: There He Goes Again

Submitted by Truth in Franchising on Fri, 2008/08/01 - 12:34.

Maybe you should focus on the substance of what I posted? It is bull crap to talk out your behind about a serious matter like bankruptcy, perpetuate myths and give out bad information.

Maybe CGT you should honor the BMM community by registering anonymously and cease with your insipid sniping?

The Truth Shall Set You Free!

TIF

Re Re: There He Goes Again

Submitted by Guest on Fri, 2008/08/01 - 14:02.

"focus on the substance"

Exactly. Why don't you follow your own advice? You don't have to act the boor. Name calling and denunciation of the poster's intelligence is not substantive to the conversation. You're just putting your own intelligence on the line for all to see. Intelligent
conversationalists are void of boorishness. Lacking posters have to resort to name-calling and berating in order to prop up their own sense of self-worth.

Why don't you at least make an attempt at posting intelligently and politely? No one put you in charge of being an offensive boor on BMM.

Why does the self-proclaimed 'truth man' stay hidden?

Submitted by Guest on Fri, 2008/08/01 - 15:30.

I wonder if TIF, and others, assume the same condescending and disparaging manner in the real world that they display using online anonymity.

An anonymous ‘regular’ gets to say what’s on their mind regularly but without having to own it personally. So perhaps that’s the “truth that sets you free”, TIF.

Before you know it, people will ignore online obnoxious behavior the same as they do off-line.

Re: Why does the self-proclaimed 'truth man' stay hidden?

Submitted by Truth in Franchising on Fri, 2008/08/01 - 16:54.

Guest writes - I wonder if TIF, and others, assume the same condescending and disparaging manner in the real world that they display using online anonymity.

An anonymous ‘regular’ gets to say what’s on their mind regularly but without having to own it personally. So perhaps that’s the “truth that sets you free”, TIF.

Before you know it, people will ignore online obnoxious behavior the same as they do off-line.  

I guess you could follow your own advice and ignore away? But you can't, can you? 

The Truth Shall Set You Free!

TIF

TIF Can't Either

Submitted by Guest on Fri, 2008/08/01 - 21:46.

"I guess you could follow your own advice and ignore away? But you can't, can you?"

Seems like you can't either. Why don't you just ignore what you defensively call "sniping?" Why do you always have to respond? Can't do it, can you? Let's see if you can ignore this post, little man, and not respond. Betcha can't.

Most certainly I can, and will, take my own advice, TIF

Submitted by Guest on Fri, 2008/08/01 - 17:17.

Initiating a group effort requires an announcement, does it not, TIF? That's my deal.

My suggestion is that others avoid you until you match your attitude to your self-proclaimed high level of authority (on seemingly everything). I'll be here and reading, as usual, but I think you'll be having a cooler reception for a while.

Re: Most certainly I can, and will, take my own advice, TIF

Submitted by Truth in Franchising on Fri, 2008/08/01 - 17:36.

Good luck with your quest, Don Quixote!

The Truth Shall Set You Free!

TIF

TIF the Carbuncle

Submitted by Guest on Fri, 2008/08/01 - 21:41.

TIF, you're just a pustuly carbuncle (that's a boil, so you don't have to run off to your dictionary) on the ass of humanity. You expose your little-man syndrome everytime you post. You think that your rudeness and boorishness makes you a man. Takes a lot more than what you have to offer, which so far has been nothing but 5th grade histrionics.......look it up. It's amazing how you attempt to defend your behavior. There is no defense for what you spew.

Ignore IT, tif

Submitted by Guest on Fri, 2008/08/01 - 21:48.

tif, just ignore the "unfair" carbuncle post and don't respond. Bwaaaahaaaaahaaaa.

Cowardly Guest Troll can't control himself...

Submitted by Truth in Franchising on Fri, 2008/08/01 - 21:59.

CGT is out of control! Get a hold of yourself before your conniptions cause permanent damage.

The Truth Shall Set You Free!

TIF

tif HAS to Answer

Submitted by Guest on Sat, 2008/08/02 - 18:54.

I knew that you had no self-control and couldn't stop yourself from replying, you jerk-off. You're a joke, tif. How come you can't come up with anything better than turning your troll title around to me? Is that all you can come up with, is to copy me? Don't you have any originality? Wait. Don't answer. It's already obvious.

You're hardly worth spending time on, but I get a kick out of spanking you and watching you sputter more unoriginal bullshit. I can just picture you spitting up in your oatmeal when you read my posts. Do you call your mom up and cry to her that we're picking on you? She probably tells you to crawl back under your bridge and to quit bothering her....same as us. Hey. I think there's a fire in your place. Oh wait. That's just the steam pouring from your ears. Bwaaaahaaaaahaaaaa!

TIF - Truth In Fiction?

Submitted by Guest on Fri, 2008/08/01 - 23:24.

Is it true that you looked into a cherios box and said "look at all those donut seeds?"

I found a Cowardly Guest Troll doll in a box of Cheerios!

Submitted by Truth in Franchising on Sat, 2008/08/02 - 12:51.

It was hideously ugly and foul smelling.

The Truth Shall Set You Free!

TIF

Well Cowardly Guest Troll...I don'y know what to tell you?

Submitted by Truth in Franchising on Sat, 2008/08/02 - 19:52.

It is you CGT that has been bested and sent off crying to your troll den under your bridge.  

The Truth Shall Set You Free!

TIF

TIF has totally lost touch with reality

Submitted by Guest on Sat, 2008/08/02 - 22:16.

He thinks it is nice and warm and cozy in his living room and is unaware that the kitchen is on fire.

Told you when I leave

Submitted by Do Diligence on Sat, 2008/08/02 - 22:29.

Someone else will bash you Tif. Tif why don't you try to understand that there are really bad zors out there that take advantage of hard working people of our country? Now that is reality not fantasy. When the new Tif basher leaves another will follow.

DoDil welcome back...

Submitted by Truth in Franchising on Sun, 2008/08/03 - 07:39.

DoDil you have found a kindred spirit in the Cowardly Guest Troll. Congratulations!

The Truth Shall Set You Free!

TIF

You love attention

Submitted by Do Diligence on Sun, 2008/08/03 - 08:19.

Tif the ranter's soapbox section is all about you. Like a child being bad for attention. The child doesn't have a clue it is bad attention. You love to put hurt zees down. You love to bicker with people. With all your knowledge in franchising you would think you'd have the heart to share that knowledge so other's will not get scammed. When you do that then and only then you will be a man of character.

Do you have to continually fight with people who have been burned in franchising? Do you want us to lie and say all franchises are great? If I said that I would be put in the same category as you. We don't even know what franchise is yours. Remember in franchising people must trust but verify. (Michael said that.)

 

DoDil I love accuracy and logic...

Submitted by Truth in Franchising on Sun, 2008/08/03 - 09:20.

I care little if you or the Cowardly Guest Troll (CGT) like me or not.

Neither you or the CGT have much to offer the franchise and related dialogue on BMM. But I am glad that you have found a new mentor in CGT to make up for your loss of the Item 20 Ranter (Carol Cross Eblen).

The Truth Shall Set You Free!

TIF

No you love

Submitted by Do Diligence on Sun, 2008/08/03 - 09:36.

MONEY!!!! People are last on your list. You are blinded by the love you have for money you do not get the obvious.  Without people there is no business therefore there will be no money without people. 

I work hard for the money!

Submitted by Truth in Franchising on Sun, 2008/08/03 - 09:40.

I am a capitalist and therefore expect a return on my investments of time and money.

I enter into contracts understanding my commitments and the other party's commitments. I expect people to live up to their obligations. 

The Truth Shall Set You Free!

TIF

come on, truth is fiction

Submitted by Guest on Sun, 2008/08/03 - 15:58.
>I work hard for the money!<<

You never did a hard days work in your life!

I am also a capitalist

Submitted by Do Diligence on Sun, 2008/08/03 - 09:57.

with ethics. Are you a capitalist with ethics?

I have also worked hard for the money. Most in this world do. It would be interesting to know the number of hard working Americans or people in other countries who have been part of a Phonzi Scheme that has stripped them of the fruits of their labor. I bet you thousands and you could care less.

Franchise agreements are one sided and leave no easy way out for the zees. How can any of your statements hold any merit when we do not know what franchise you are a zor of.

I bet you if all the people in our country knew how one sided franchise agreements were and really understood the consequenses of entering into a contract like a FA, most would not do it.

Like you expecting people to live up to their obligations I expect a zor to be ethical. Do you know what that means? Do you even care?

RE: I am also a capitalist

Submitted by Truth in Franchising on Sun, 2008/08/03 - 10:24.

DoDil writes -  "I bet you if all the people in our country knew how one sided franchise agreements were and really understood the consequenses of entering into a contract like a FA, most would not do it."

Reply - 1) people are not forced to sign franchise agreements, they do so freely. 2) people should read and understand the agreements that they sign and hire professional help in the process.

TIF

I suggest

Submitted by Do Diligence on Sun, 2008/08/03 - 11:06.

People study the world of franchising like any field of choice. Before they decide to buy a franchise they need to understand how franchising works. They also need to understand franchise agreements are in favor of the zor. Most do not. People believe they are getting a head start buying a system that has been proven over and over. Many cases there are zors who are still selling proven failing systems over and over. Why can't you acknowlege this wrong doing going on in franchising? Are you just trying to make everyone believe franchising is the only way to go? Do you insist your future zees take their FDD and FA to a franchise lawyer?

No, people are not forced to sign anything. To be fair there should be a law that they do not sign until they can prove they understand the implications of signing a FA or a self guaranteed lease. Do you make sure they have the working capital to start a business and see it through to success? Do you sign up anyone that has a pen? Do you sign up anyone that can mark an X? I know you make sure they have assets. Make your money up front and their left with nothing but the bills. Make sure they are left with nothing so they cannot seek legal recourse. If this is so everyone should seek to become a zor.

I couldn't be that way. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night. Taking someone's dreams and life style away from them. Making people suffer out of greed. Not the way I want to live or be an example to my children or grandchildren.

When a society loses trust I believe it is the beginning of the end.

RE: I suggest

Submitted by Truth in Franchising on Sun, 2008/08/03 - 11:41.

DoDil writes -  "Do you insist your future zees take their FDD and FA to a franchise lawyer?"

Reply - No. However the recommendation to seek legal assistance is in the front of the FDD. We also do not negotiate the agreement. The agreement is one-sided in our favor. Prospects often do seek legal advice, we view it as a positive and rarely lose deals because of due diligence

DoDil writes -  "To be fair there should be a law that they do not sign until they can prove they understand the implications of signing a FA or a self guaranteed lease. "

Reply - How`would this law you propose work?

DoDil writes - "Do you make sure they have the working capital to start a business and see it through to success? Do you sign up anyone that has a pen? Do you sign up anyone that can mark an X? I know you make sure they have assets. Make your money up front and their left with nothing but the bills. Make sure they are left with nothing so they cannot seek legal recourse. If this is so everyone should seek to become a zor."

Reply - I see you have franchising all figured out! Do you really believe the rubbish you've written?

The Truth Shall Set You Free!

TIF

Unfortunately

Submitted by Do Diligence on Sun, 2008/08/03 - 12:02.

too many people do not understand the FDD or FA. I know zor's hate people who ask too many guestions. A good example of people not understanding their FDD is the waiver of a court case. When people go into a FA with a zor I seriously doubt if they understand how serious that waiver is. They are going into business in good faith otherwise they would not do it. If they thought for a second it would end up in court they wouldn't of signed the FA. It would take hours for a lawyer to go over the FDD and FA. It sounds like you are implying that the zor has no duty to explain anything. They can puff material facts, misrepresent and flat out lie about everything as long as it isn't disclosed in the FDD.Therefore it is legal.. Sounds pretty shady and it is unethical business practices. No wonder many existing and former zees are pissed off.

You only believe what I write is rubbish because if everyone believed what I have learned it might hurt your wallet.

I had dinner with a lady who is CEO of her company. She in not a zor. It is really a business of her own. She believes ethics is still strong in businessl. Doesn't mean she is weak. She is tough to those who deserve it.

I believe my bad experience with franchising was a costly lesson. Will I be able to spot the liars. Yes. Will I be nice to them? No. I will be tougher, meaner and stronger to those who lie, steal and try to cheat me. Absolutely.

Will I go the franchising route? You figure it out.

Let me help you DoDil by asking one question at a time...

Submitted by Truth in Franchising on Sun, 2008/08/03 - 12:06.

DoDil writes -  "To be fair there should be a law that they do not sign until they can prove they understand the implications of signing a FA or a self guaranteed lease. "

Reply - How`would this law you propose work?  

The Truth Shall Set You Free!

TIF

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