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Teeth Whitening Business
I looked into the teeth whitening business for the past year and have followed some of the Mall stores that have opened up in my aread and none of them seem to have made it more than 4-5 months. Does anybody know of any Mall-based or Spa-based teeth whitening businesses that have worked?
I am still interested in this business (due to its low entry costs), but I am still surprised that none of the stores have worked out so far.
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Teeth Whitening success
Hi,
I just read your comment and wanted to let you know that I too, looked into buying a franchise. I now own a franchise that I started in MIchigan. There are right ways of doing this and wrong ways. The Mall type atmosphere is definitely not right. I can share more if you're open to a conversation. Let me know at the email address above.
Teeth whitening licenses,
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website address
Do you have a website address that shows all the wholesalers in the industry for teeth whitening?
Who are the ethical players and whom we should stay away from?
I am wanting to sell into salons and spas in Canada, as I am based out of Vancouver BC Canada
I would really like to hear back from you if you have time...
Thank you,
Wanda
Zap Whitening
Just a quick update on Zap Whitening. I have recieved numerous emails, all with the same content about an earlier posting on this company. I have emails from all around the world from people who have bought products from this company and have recieved SFA. I am currently building a profile so if you have a problem with this company, just pop over an email. I will be happy to assist anyone if I can. Send it to info@evolveireland.com.
if you have not dealt with this company yet, DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT. I spoke to a guy this morning in the UK who is still owed over $2000.00. and is at his wits end. I have plenty more stories like it.
I ordered product from Zap
I ordered product from Zap Whitening, and on top of not delivering the products that were advertised, the quality of them was worse than poor; dried up gel foam strips, etc. When confronted with the issues, they made it seem as though I had done something to the product to make it this way and offered only another defective alternative of gel syringes that do not have the approved seal. I was ripped off of a lot of money, with less than acceptable garbage product to show for it. I only speak negatively of Zap Whitening to everyone.
Zap Whitening
Zap Whitening is going through the times of Economy of Mr. Obama... No Excuse but the company is just trying to recover from the spill of the economy tha has toppled.
This is untrue. It is down to
This is untrue. It is down to false promises and incompetant management and alot of lying.
Zap Whitening/ Zap Medical
I purchased various amounts of equipment from Jason Miller last October /08. I still have $3000.00 outstanding on some of the equipment. Tried to get a hold of him but could never get through. Total rip off artist. Everyone STAY AWAY, from him and his companies!!!
Need to get a hold of the
Need to get a hold of the actual owner not the representative.
They are one in the same
They are one in the same person.
Teeth Whitening Business is a Fraud
Whether or not Teeth Whitening is a franchisee or licensee matters little to me. I am a small business owner and I am looking at this as a pure business opportunity.
And believe me...when you look at it as a business opportunity this business IS a FRAUD!!
I live in the DFW metroplex area and I have personally seen people hard earned dollars go to waste due to the inability of this concept to deliver results.
I have seen WOW Express, Zap White and other open either Kiosks or in-line stores in some of the best malls in DFW (The Galleria, Willow Bend, The Parks Mall, Stonebriar and Hulen Mall) and these stores do not stay open for more than 6 months. Every one of the owners got sucked in by the "low investment" of $6,000...but when you dig into the business you realize that this only covers the price of one lamp. You still need to buy the products (at hugely mark-up prices) as well as buy the "rights" to the mall.
At the end of the day...what you thought was a $6,000 investment turns out to be over $50,000 ($25K for the right for the mall, three lamps for your store, plus product, etc)...and this $50K does not include the build out for the store.
At the end of the day (franchisee or not) Teeth Whitening as a business opportunity DOES NOT work!!!
We have had some commnents here about how some of these companies say they do not sell malls (we at least they do sell them now since they were all failures), but instead "encourage" people to sell to spas or places of that sort.
Sounds easy enough, but you try moving two or three of these machines all over town doing teeth whitening procedures, all while the spa itself is taking most of your profit....why should'nt they? After all they have a high rent to pay for...
At the end of the day...these guys make their money selling you exclusive licensee territory rights (like they are worth anything), mark-up equipment and product. You will fail...they won't return your messages and then they hope you will go away....
So just a word of advice...stay away!!!
Whitening business
I too have been ripped off by Zap Whitening, over $800 worth of product that turned to water, or maybe was water, who knows. They're smooth. Easy to promise and slow to deliver. Then once there is a delivery, it's less than satisfactory.
Let's not let the "losers" of an $11B industry ruin it for the rest of us though. There are ways to achieve financial success in this industry. Believe, me I've tried them all. It's NOT in the malls and salons though. Instead of investing in a high license-cost already established franchise, I started my own business. I'm doing well after some bumps and bruises of the learning curve of "how" and "where" but found a really nice niche' that is successful. I'm looking for business partners in the Chicago, Metro Detroit area and Grand Rapids, MI for those who are interested.
Interested in discussing the opportunity
Were in Northwest Indiana. Interested in the Teeth Whitening Business and your valuable experience . Please contact us.
Thought You Might Want to Know (Zap Whitening)
You need to Try this company Zap Whitening!! They have everything, it is like a Teeth Whitening Mall online. Pretty cool! Very reasonable prices too. Just a FYI Teeth Whitening Supplies and Equipment for your Teeth Whitening Business.Zap Whitening
Hi, Although the products that Zap whitening are great and very well priced, the people that are running the company are a nightmare. We have dealt with Jason Miller and as soon as we eventually receive the products that we paid for nearly a month ago, we will never be dealing with them again. If you need more information, please feel free to contact me on info@evolveireland.com. LarryZap Medical
Zap Medical is out of business. The company has gone out of business, and the reason is the economy.
ZAP WHITENING
DO NOT GO ANYWHERE NEAR THIS COMPANY.
WE HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF AND OWED $1,000S AND JASON MILLER IS A COMPLETE JOKE
a not so great reason
Low entry cost is a bad reason to want to be in a certain business. If it is cheap for you, then why wouldn't it be cheap for the next person also? If you manage to do well, you will just attract numerous copycat competitors now that you have tested the market for them.Hi there, It depends on your
Hi there, It depends on your market and of course the economeny is not helping. I own a kiosk in Indiana, going on 6 months now, and even though it was a slow start, we are doing good. I have only 1 employee and we share the hours. About half of my business come's from referals. Even though you probably won't get rich, you will make some very good income. And it's nice to start a business with low cost. Also, be very careful were you buy your products from. I have lost thousandsssssss of dollars going with wrong companies. Best of luck! Jessicateeth whitening
Whom have you found to be the most ethical to deal with? Whom have you found to be the least ethical?
What company would you recommend dealing with?
I purchased a teeth whitening
I purchased a teeth whitening franchise. I recently closed my doors for business due to the lack of customers. The local mall whitening business closed before I did. But I would like to continue possibly someplace that has a better economy. I did begin to look into oother companies offering more reasonable costs for product and also used a different process that was far more safe and better for my customers. It was truely rewarding when the whitenings were successful and most of them truely were. Could you contact me with companies you dealt with for product or any ideas to make my second endevor successful?
Appreciate whatever advise you can offer.
whitenning bussiness
hi jessica i will like to know how to star the bussiness of teeth withening, which are the best options?Teeth whitening success
I can help offer suggestions too. lorie.whitetoyou@gmail.com
Teeth Whitening
I do not believe this is a viable business model. We live in Texas and have talked to several of the teeth whitening companies: iSmile, PearlBrite, XpresSmile, WOWSmile, etc. First of all they all sell you on the low entry price point...less than $6K. What they do not tell you is that only includes the Lamp, some equipment and 2-3 months worth of supply. So great...where are you going to sell it?? So then they steer you into the need for a retail space...which goes against the low entry price point benefit. Then they talk to you about needing to buy a Kiosk, and the rights to a mall, a buildout, etc. Before you know it...you are looking at a $50K - $75K investment to open a store at a mall. The results? EVERY store or kioks that has opened (that I know of) in the Dallas/Forth Worth and Houston area has closed. People are simply NOT buying this product...believe me I have gone to those stores and simply NO ONE is there. I thought this concept would work and simply it does not. It is tough to make a business work that is only one product and people feel that it is a "medical procedure" and do not like having an $8.50 an hour employee messing with their teeth. I would like to see if there is people out there that have made this business work to prove me wrong, but I am not hopeful. Beware of this concept!!!Medical service franchises are dangerous
Yes, and some state regulators are touchy about this as well. Before you spend any money on a medical service franchise, you should make sure that your home state won't shut you down.
Look at the debate on Sona MedSpa (put the term into the BMM search engine for list of articles) and you can see some discussion about California's concerns. Another current medical franchise being offered is Vital Dent. Also there was a franchise case some years back involving eyeglasses (I believe it was Pearle Vision) and laypeople practicing medicine. In China a few years ago, there was a franchise selling pills for breast augmentation, potentially a serious medical hazard.
The IFA takes the position that franchising is franchising and that there is nothing wrong with Ma & Pa Jones plunking down a franchise fee and flinging lasers and chemicals around unsuspecting patrons. But I don't agree, and for the life of me I can't understand how medical franchises can get insurance coverage.
Paul Steinberg
Franchisee Attorney, New York City, Ph: 212-529-5400
Paul Steinberg, Franchisee Attorney, New York City, Ph: 212-529-5400
Teeth whitening business
There is a lot of mis information in this discussion. XpresSmile does not sell into mall or kiosks. We are a premium brand and focus on entrepreneurs that want to become dealers for XpresSmile selling into dentists, spas, salons and chiropractors. We steer our customers away from the malls as their is high hype and then a drop in interest. Customers prefer the privacy and knowledge of a spa/salon or medical practice. You also need to choose a supplier that invests in research and industry associations like the CCTW. The Council on Cosmetic Teeth Whitening makes sure their partners follow best practices and invest in legal action to protect your business's right to practice cosmetic teeth whitening. As a member, I can tell you which states are safe and offer you legal advice and assistance if you receive a cease and desist. Vendors selling cheap products don't train their sales reps, know the products and technology inside and out and do't below to the CCTW to offer you legal protection. You can make a lot of money as a mobile whitener or a dealer. I have many customers doing this safely and legally. Insurance is available and XpresSmile has several options that include professional liability from well recognized insurance companies. We are building a strong, reputable business that will be here for the long run nand we want our customers to succeed and flourish. And they do!Practicing Law without a license by xpresSmile
I read the above and I copy verbatim for you to decide
" I can tell you which states are safe and offer you legal advice and assistance if you receive a cease and desist"
This does mean XpresSmile not only is practicing dentistry without a license but also is practicing law without a license.
It is a joke about CCTW, it is a private group (all of them facing problems with the Dental Board) is gathering to figure out where they can get the money for lawyer fees. It was their intention to collect fees, dues from new members who are scared and intimidated about the uncertainly. XpresSmile stated that they can give legal advise, i wonder what state this person is licensed under to give legal advice. This is how the teeth whitening business has bad name and reputation - without legal and dental education, these people are claiming themselves experts - manufacturers etc..
According to the FDA websites, not a single company is listed - if they are a manufacturer or a cosmetics item, they should be, distributors also should be listed, none of the company is following rules.
I think the Attorney General shoud take a look at these companies and weed out the bads from the goods, the consumer's rights and safety must be protected - it is fair to allow the good companies to stay in business, and those bad companies should be shut down. XpresSmile should be closed down for practing both legal and dental without any licenses.. I doubt it if the owner finished and dental or law school curriculums or even was enrolled in either programs. Good luck!
Dangerous franchises
Xpressmile guest states:
" As a member I can tell you which states are safe" and that "the Council on Cosmetic Teeth Whitening .....invest in legal action to protect your business's right to practice cosmetic teeth whitening.."
This indicates to me that the legality of such practises are already under scrutiny.This should ring major alarm bells.
What happens if you have signed on for one of these franchises and further down the track teeth whitening becomes more heavily regulated? or banned altogether?
The answer is you have lost your investment and have a completely unsellable franchise.
I made this mistake myself with a pool maintenance franchise. One minute I am fully qualified to perform all pool maintenance work and the next I am required to be licensed and the large sums I paid for training now a worthless piece of paper. Sometimes this can mean that potential buyers for your franchise are dramatically reduced. You may even find that buyers are non existent for a period while occupational courses to provide the correct qualifications are formalised and deployed.
Potential franchisees must ask themselves some questions:
Can your business model sustain such interruption?
Will your own finances stretch far enough to see you through should tighter regulation become a reality?
Are you prepared and resourced enough to respond to changes in regulation your chosen industry?
Remember that sometimes a set amount of previous experience is required to obtain certain qualifications. For example to become a qualified pool operator requires two years prior experience in the field, an $8000 AU training course and a certain liquidity ratio to obtain a license. So sometimes you will require more than just money- you may have to apprentice yourself for a period of time to qualify.
Serious thought must be given to the effect of govt regulation out of your control when purchasing a franchise whose activities have the potential to be regulated.
Re: Dangerous franchises
Xpressmile is a business opportunity and not marketed as a franchise in the United States and therefore is not subject to franchise regulation other than FTC and State BizOp rules.Xpressmile not a franchise.
The same considerations need applying whether your considering a franchise or an independant business.
Its just that when people buy a franchise they tend to assume that the franchisor has considered the effects of industry regulation ( thats regulation specific to the business activity not franchising regulation) on the proposed business model when often they have not and that the effects of new industry specific regulation on a franchise business are often harsher than if you were an independant.
Think about how you will handle a situation where a franchise agreement states that you will be terminated for not holding the releveant qualifications in an industry where the qualifications are likely to change. Sometimes frequently and expensively.
Re: Xpressmile not a franchise.
In the US franchises are more highly regulated and the rules are different as opposed to BizOps. This is a franchising site and I think it is pretty much dedicated to franchise businesses. Talking about BizOps is distracting and confusing, unless of course the BizOp is in reality a franchise in disguise which would be worthy of discussion..Bizops distracting and confusing?
"in the US franchises are more highly regulated...."
More than what?
I merely referenced the quotes from the Xpresssmile guest to elaborate further the point made by Mr Steinburg that medical franchises are dangerous and to make my point more salient that even xpresssmile guest admits that "dealers" may recieve a cease and desist notice.
Obviously I have not explained myself well enough as you are still referencing franchise regulation.
What i refer to is what Mr Steinburg mentioned, that certain types of business activities come under scrutiny form relevant boards and councils whether you are franchised or not.
There is a risk with medical service type businesses that your govt authority may shut you down.
I am attempting to demonstrate that this risk exists in a number of different business models, not just medical ones, and that the risk of business failure due to new regulation is sometimes greater for franchise systems than for an independant business.
Even if your franchised business survives changes to regulations, one must still consider how the changes may affect resale value or the abillty to sell.
Whether xpressmile is a franchise or not is irrelevant.
The effects of industry specific regulation, whether it be from a medical board or a building and construction authority must be considered with regards to how any changes might affect your business model.
In franchising, the interplay between medical service regulation and the franchise business model must be closely scrutinised for conflict and for its potential to increase the risk of failure over and above what might be suffered for an independant business.
The Irony here is, that the advert banner below all my posts today on this subject has been:
" Dont pay for white teeth, The secret tooth whitening product discovered by a Mom who spent under $3 click here"
Zap Whitening
Not a bad price on Gels and supplies. We got our supplies quickly. International always takes longer.