Bear Creek Coffee

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Bear Creek Coffee

This isn't the first story we have heard of a coffee house that didn't give back a promised refund.

The title says it all - buyer beware.

on September 15th, 2008

worried

Well here I sit and know exactly what you're saying but yet I'm stuck because I too have given Jeremie the $28,500 deposit and know damn well I won't get it back anytime soon if I choose to back out. I am currently working on a cafe/drive-thru. The only thing I am allowing Bear Creek to do for me is order my equipment. Everything else will be done on my end. The only thing I'll be out with Bear Creek if things go sour is about $14,000 or so in fees and their commission on the equipment. I would love to order my own but I'm just not that confident yet. Anyway I know for a fact that they have tons of ordering issues, probably due to the fact that they are low on funds. So as for now all I can do is continue to move forward and if things to go to poop then I'll have to find money to change my name on everything and buy a new sign, maybe $25,000? I would rather come up with that than back out now and loose $28,500, right? I know 2 Bear Creek Coffee owners that both went with Bear Creek on EVERYTHING almost and it was all done half ass and they are still waiting on items in which they paid for but never received. Sigh!

I just hope I'm doing the right thing at this point.

Posted by sooo confused! on January 14th, 2009

Similar Problems with Bear Creek Coffee

My business partner and I have heard similar excuses from Bear Creek Coffee, flooded offices, power outages, illness, etc, and we decided to terminate our relationship with them because of it. Unfortunately, they are unethically withholding our deposit despite daily calls to Jeremie Johnson. We have since opened an independent cafe that Bear Creek Coffee is threatening to de-rail by holding our money. We are very unhappy customers, this has gone on for months. Buyer beware.

on November 5th, 2008

Bear Creek Coffee Problems with Another Licensee

My wife and I signed up with Bear Creek Coffee in April '07. We recently asked for our deposit back based on our agreement with them. We have received no response from Jeremie Johnson, the owner, after leaving a dozen voice messages, sending emails, etc. I've finally had to have our attorney step in and have still received no response! I would recommend you steer clear if you are thinking about doing business with Bear Creek Coffee!!!

on November 10th, 2008

Bear Creek Coffee will screw you

And we, too, have had communications issues with the president, Jeremie Johnson. Usually we are simply ignored outright when we attempt to contact them (I've sent dozens of e-mail & voice messages), but every once and awhile we're fed some excuse of how Jeremie had to attend a week-long funeral, etc. I am currently in litigation with them since they've chosen to not only keep our deposit of $28,500 but also our 2nd phase payment $38,000 without delivering anything whatsoever!

We are suing them with everything we have in our savings, and we've retained one of the better business law firms in Washington DC. Even if we lose money in the end, it is my goal to make sure that this horribly run business does not continue their unethical ways. Something tells me they don't have two nickles to rub together, and that is why they aren't returning our calls. I have a feeling they run their business out of someone's garage.

Don't do what we did. Save your money.

on November 13th, 2008

Getting in touch with another Bear Creek Licensee

Greetings,

I'm currently another licensee with Bear Creek Coffee and have left a thread on this page as well. Your particular situation sounds similar to mine and would like to talk with you further. How can I reach you? Thanks so much and look forward to talking with you.

on November 18th, 2008

soooo sorry

My partner and I gave our deposit to Bear Creek Coffee in March'06. We have been trying to get our deposit($28,500)back since June'06. I had my lawyer look over everything before we sent our deposit in. She made the comment that BBC contract looked generic and poorly written, but she felt that the way it was written we would be okay. We went home and went onto Better Business Bureau to check for any complaints on BBC. NOTHING was written. So we sent in our deposit. It has been a pain in the butt since I have spoken with everyone in the company including Mr. Jeremie "Liar" Johnson. He had finally told us he would give back our deposit in Aug'06 and we are still waiting. We have an attourney in Indiana (because that is the law, in order to sue in Indiana you have to have a lawyer from that state). We feel so bad that we didn't know to Blog and hopefully save others from this "NIGHTMARE". We did complain to BBB in the end of '06,and of course Jeremie did respond to that, but nothing and no one else since. We are SOOOO SORRY that we couldn't have saved others from this Half-Assed company. Oh just so you all know we still (after 3 yrs) have not seen a dime or had a hearing!!! And now we are hearing bankruptcy, but THEY ARE STILL TAKING DEPOSITS FROM PEOPLE!!!! What kind of justice is this?

Posted by pissed off! on January 30th, 2009

Is Bear Creek Coffee filing bankruptcy?

I am one of the many folks waiting for my money, Does anyone know if Bear Creek Coffee really filing Bankruptcy? Please let me know, what you know.

Posted by Guest on January 30th, 2009

BCC is confirmed by my lawyer as being in default & liquidating

All -

I posted a few months back under the title "Bear Creek Coffee Will Screw You" (sorry about the french there). I wanted to update you all as to the status of my legal actions against BCC & its various other names (Bear Creek Building Sales, etc).

According to my lawyer, who is a very good one in the DC area, BCC is now in default of our legal activities against them (they have chosen to ignore our summons). Additionally, I have been told by my lawyer that they are filing bankruptcy, as they have more than 9 other legal actions against them. My lawyer tells me that if they do declare bankruptcy there isn't much I can do, other than to assign a layer in Indiana to go after BCC and take as a fee up to 1/3'rd of whatever he can get out of them. Other than that, my lawyer is seriously thinking about issuing a civil case against Jeremie Johnson personally - as under the laws where I live, he is guilty of fraud.

I bring this up because I want to know all of your thoughts about Jeremie and whether any of you might be interested in pooling resources to go after Jeremie & get something back from what he took from us. I don't know about the rest of you but I lost enough to pay for both of my children's university studies. If any of you are interested in building a case against Jeremie & possibly Brian personally, please respond to this thread. I think between the bunch of us we should have solid enough evidence to either A: get our money back as part of a settlement, or B: they'll go to jail for making deals they never intended to make good on (fraud). I have some evidence to this case, and if any of you do, I think we might have a way ahead in Indiana.

God bless all of you - I hope none of you are destitute because of this...

Posted by Guest on March 5th, 2009

I am a Licensee in Mentor Ohio

You can email me if you wish. Dennis

Posted by Dennis on February 16th, 2009

I am a licensee in Mentoe Ohio

My email is d.koury@roadrunner.com Dennis

Posted by Dennis on February 16th, 2009

Contact Information - Bear Creek Licensee

Hello,

I forgot to leave my contact information today in regards to how you can get in touch with me. If you would be so kind, please email me at: nwcoffee@charter.net
I would like to talk with you further about our situation and see how things are going on your end. Thanks so much.

Regards,

nwcoffee@charter.net

on November 18th, 2008

WANTING TO GET IN TOUCH WITH GUEST SUING BEAR CREEK IN DC

Hello,

I want to make sure I get in touch with the right person here. I would very much like to talk to the Guest who submitted the following post on Thu, 2008/11/13 - 18:41 - "Bear Creek Coffee Will Screw You." If you'd be so kind as to email me at: nwcoffee@charter.net, that would be greatly appreciated. I'd like to talk with you further about what's going on. Thank you for your time. I hope to hear from you soon.

Regards,

nwcoffee@charter.net

on November 18th, 2008

I wonder if the coffee business is hurting because

of the best selling book called "Skinny Bitch." All my friends have read it. It tells people not to drink coffee because it causes alot of acid in your body. It is not good for people who want to loose weight. I have talked to people in my office that have read the book. I know I have changed to drinking decaf teas. I know Starbucks has laid off alot of employees. I know Starbucks is selling healthier things. They do sell decaf teas. Maybe these coffee places should focus on decaf teas. The book is powerful. I haven't been able to eat meat after reading the book. Decaf coffee is as bad as drinking caffeinated coffee.

on December 10th, 2008

DoDil said: I wonder if the

DoDil said:

I wonder if the coffee business is hurting because of the best selling book called "Skinny Bitch."

WOW DoDil!

My friend once read a book about jumping off bridges…..well lets just say it didn’t turn out well for him. That must have been a compelling book as well.

Posted by Jack McGullible on December 11th, 2008

It was just a thought

You know there have been many books, Diet books, that can cause a decline of sells of certain products. A good example is the Atkins Diet, Liquid Protein diets.
Not gullible. Everyone I know has read this book. The diets like the South Beach Diet, Skarsdale Diet can affect certain markets. It could be a fad but fads can affect your business. Why do you think many resturants tell the calorie intake or have the point system for Weight Watchers. I talked to a waiter in Seattle last week. He told me he doesn't eat meat. I responded, "You read Skinny Bitch didn't you?" He said yes. MY daughter who lives in the East Coast read the book and is now a size 0. The book states coffee is not good for you period. The women who wrote this book are very wealthy now.
Bottom line it doesn't matter what I think it is what the public thinks. People in business need to pay attenton to the latest fad to increase sells. I am sure the sweetener Splenda sales have decreased after reading this book. Chipotle a Mexican fast food resturant has a sign that states,"They sell free-range meat. They make sure their meat come from animals who are treated well." They are busy. People do read books that have to do with good health. Our obsessed society about being thin will pick this book up. Just the title will grab every woman's eye. It is written in a way that is sometimes shocking and humourous. I read it in a day because it kept my attention. No one has wrote a book that makes you laugh but gets it's point across. A Solomon type of humor. Funny but direct.
A example from the book:
"Don't talk to me until I've had my mornng coffee." Uhm...pathetic. Coffee is for pussies.
Going further in the paragraph it says:
You should not need anything to wake you up. If you can't wake up wthout it, it's because you are either addicted to caffeine, sleep deprived, or a generally unhealthy slob.
It also states that coffee regular or decaf is acidic. Acidic foods can cause your body to produce fat cells,in order to keep the acid away from your organs.

on December 11th, 2008

DoDil, My last post was a

DoDil,
My last post was a little tongue and cheek. Not a reflection of you, but of the masses.
You are correct on your comment about fads inasmuch as the masses do tend to run with someone else's ideas before knowing what the outcome or side effects may be. If anyone needs proof, simply watch an episode of Oprah and take note on which book or product she endorses. Reminds me of Fuwa’s old signature line.

BTW: What happened to the old signature line Fuwa? It was spot on.

Posted by Jack McGullible on December 11th, 2008

Fuwa's old signature?

He still uses it. (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.) I have to admit I miss my morning coffee. I love latte's and expresso. I also have to admit I was thinner when I drank 3 pots of coffee a day. It made me so wired you could not keep me down. I was also in my twenties and that makes a difference too. Age can make a difference in your metabolism. Maybe I'll bite the bullet and have a good cup of coffee now.

on December 11th, 2008

Re: I wonder if the coffee business is hurting because

That comment about coffee being bad for you is a bunch of crap! There is medical research out there that states coffeee in moderation has antioxidative effects. I have only heard coffee is bad if one has a heart condition or maybe circulatory issues. People maybe drinking less coffee out right now due to the econoy but coffee is alive and well!

Posted by cindy on January 26th, 2009

What to believe?

I just heard on the news coffee is good for you and your heart.  There is so many opinions out there the public will get fed up and eat everything and drink anything they want.  You say coffee is bad for people with heart problems.  What to believe? 

on January 26th, 2009

Fello Licensee

Hiya,

I am the original poster of this thread. I have heard the funeral story, wedding story as well as a tornado story! All in all I agree with you that Bear Creek is going under. Unfortunately I have already opened and am too far into this to back out. I would love to know about your suit against Bear Creek.

Posted by Carl on January 2nd, 2009

reply to Fello Licensee

We heard several versions of the tornado story, each worse than the next. Our building is now being built by another manufacturer, so we are kind of in the middle and weighing our options. We are very interested in hearing from Fello Licensee (carlisme). Please contact us at dumtid@msn.com.

Posted by Guest on January 5th, 2009

Bear Creek Coffee will screw you

How is your pending lawsuit progressing?

Posted by Guest on February 16th, 2009

Bear Creek going Bankrupt

Does anyone know how many people have been promised by Bear Creek there money back. If they are under a lot of law suits and they owe us money, want they probably just file Corp. bankruptcy and we will all be out our $$$$. In this economy unless they have a lot of coffee beans being sold,I'm not sure they will make it. Then we all lose, has anyone heard they might be selling out?

Posted by Guest on February 16th, 2009

Another Bear Creek Coffee licensee

We are Bear Creek licensees who have been waiting for completion of our drive-through kiosk since last spring and have had similar frustrations in getting information from Bear Creek Coffee. We have, however, visited a BCC kiosk in Richmond, Indiana so we know that such things exist. We are interested in communicating with any of you in this thread so we can decide what to do next. You can reach us at dumtid@msn.com.

Posted by Guest on December 8th, 2008

bear creek coffee

good luck. Hope all this works out for you. Coffee is still a good business. Just make sure you have enough funds to tide you over the first year.

Posted by Guest on December 10th, 2008

Bearcreek

Hello everyone,

I am the owner of the bear creek in richmond, In. Any questions please feel free to email me at spencernd@comcast.net.

Posted by Guest on January 5th, 2009

Bearcreek coffee

I'm from Indiana and all the stories are stories right out of a sience fiction novel. If only one person reads this and does not lose his or her moneys then I have done my part in stoping their madness!Please do your home work and check these guys out! Their on the verge of bankrupsey and have numerus law suites. I'm one of the many trusting people that got sucked in with the dream of bearcreek coffee. Jeremy Johnson and Brian Gatewood (President and Vice President of bearcreek coffee) should both be brought to justice for all the cons that they have started.

Posted by not alone on January 10th, 2009

Re: Bearcreek coffee

Has anyone had luck getting back the deposit money? I came across this after the fact.

Posted by Guest on January 23rd, 2009

I will ruin him.

He will be no more if he does not finish my store.

Posted by Guest on February 12th, 2009

Bearcreek coffee

Who are you? I would like to communicate.

Posted by Guest on February 16th, 2009

Re: Bearcreek coffee

I agree, Jeremie and his band of thieves are circling the toilet bowl. I have a credit with them and up until a couple of weeks ago all was well; coffee and other products delivered on time.

Now it seems like lots of things are on "backorder" and I got a call from a new smoothie syrup vendor; just wanted to get acquainted. That tells me that Bear Creek's Green bean and supply business is going wrong too. You can only run a Ponzi scheme for so long before it bites you....

Posted by Guest on February 26th, 2009

Bear Creek Sucks

Starbucks is closing 300 stores and laying off 6700 employees.

Posted by Guest on January 28th, 2009

Bear Creek Coffee (SUCKS)

I am curious as to why you open with Bear Creek Coffee Sucks if the body of your comment is about Starbucks closings and layoffs. Does Starbucks have an affiliation with Bear Creek Coffee?

Posted by Guest on January 29th, 2009

Bear Creek troubles

I am considering legal action against Bear Creek for return of my deposit. I have also had the experience of Jeremie's callous tactics of not returning phone calls or emails. My lending agency had numerous problems with trying to get them to return calls and supply them with needed information.
If you are taking legal action or considering it to get your deposit returned, please email me at ozzie801@hotmail.com
we may be able to help each other.

Posted by Guest on February 13th, 2009

Bear creek Coffee & e-mail

Hello ozzie801, did you get my e-mail. I am in the same boat as you with Jeremie. If you did not I will trey again. Thanks

Posted by Guest on February 23rd, 2009

Bear Creek Troubles

To all of you people out there. You all should know that this guy is going to take the money and run. He is ripping off people all across the country. We are lucky that we got open, late, but open. STAY AWAY FROM THE THIEF, JEREMIE JOHNSON

Posted by Guest on February 26th, 2009

Jeremie Johnson is a CROOK, a LIAR, and a CON ARTIST

No one will receive justice for what this man has done to my family as well as others who have invested in the American dream to run their own business. Please, those who have contracts or owe Bear Creek Coffee, or Daily Brew money do not make payments. You will not receive your building, products, or your money back.
I too have heard the lies, family issues, funerals, brother in jail, grandma in hospital and every other excuse for not responding. The CEO of Bear Creek Coffee (Jeremie Johnson) will avoid your phone calls, your text messages, and E-mails. If your are lucky enough to catch him, he will lie through his teeth, and rob you of your pride.
I began this money pit 2 years ago. I gave my first installment and was shown pictures of a building that was supposed to be mine. Gave my second installment 2 months later on the promise my building would be done in three months. I began site work and started lease payments. After 8 months of paying lease payments with no building it finally arrived. After hearing many excuses and lies about the manufacture having issues with completing the building It was on finally on site. After a year of being in business and finally realizing that it was not only cheaper to buy all of my products and supplies through other vendors I was basically buying nothing from Bear creek to run my business.(I was tired of back orders, Changes of mail carrier because they couldn't keep up with payments to UPS, Then, DHL, then Fed ex etc..)
6 months later, I signed a contract with Daily Brew for them to buy my building and equipment back and he has made one payment in four months. Funny thing is he had allready sold my building to another pour soul who had allready made his first installment. I have contacted this other person who has stated that he has made three large payments, but yet I have recieved one monthly payment and a bounced check that I had to pay a fee for. After talking to the other buyer I find Jeremie Johnson has stolen my building and charged another buyer a nice hefty 20,000 dollars more than what my contract with Jeremie was signed for. After four months of waiting and threats to take him to court, I finally recieved contact with Jeremie who tells me he will not make payments and I should drive down and pick up my building because he feels he should not be involved with the sale of my building.
As I lay in bed every night till three in the morning wondering how I am going to take care of my family, I am sure he is figuring out a way to destroy other families hopes and dreams. As far as Bear Creek Coffee going bankrupt, I sure hope not. There are far to many people who have invested in this fraud that Jeremie calls a business.
If you are allready involved please contact the BBB and The Indiana attorney general. We cannot stand aside and let Jeremie Johnson get away with fraud.

Posted by Guest on March 4th, 2009

Jeremie Johnson is a CROOK, a LIAR, and a CON ARTIST

who are you? buzzinbean@gmail.com

Posted by Guest on March 15th, 2009

BEAR CREEK IS IN PROCESS OF LIQUIDATING (PER MY LAYWER)

All -

I posted a few months back under the title "Bear Creek Coffee Will Screw You" (sorry about the french there). I wanted to update you all as to the status of my legal actions against BCC & its various other names (Bear Creek Building Sales, etc).

According to my lawyer, who is a very good one in the DC area, BCC is now in default of our legal activities against them (they have chosen to ignore our summons). Additionally, I have been told by my lawyer that they are filing bankruptcy, as they have more than 9 other legal actions against them. My lawyer tells me that if they do declare bankruptcy there isn't much I can do, other than to assign a layer in Indiana to go after BCC and take as a fee up to 1/3'rd of whatever he can get out of them. Other than that, my lawyer is seriously thinking about issuing a civil case against Jeremie Johnson personally - as under the laws where I live, he is guilty of fraud.

I bring this up because I want to know all of your thoughts about Jeremie and whether any of you might be interested in pooling resources to go after Jeremie & get something back from what he took from us. I don't know about the rest of you but I lost enough to pay for both of my children's university studies. If any of you are interested in building a case against Jeremie & possibly Brian personally, please respond to this thread. I think between the bunch of us we should have solid enough evidence to either A: get our money back as part of a settlement, or B: they'll go to jail for making deals they never intended to make good on (fraud). I have some evidence to this case, and if any of you do, I think we might have a way ahead in Indiana.

God bless all of you - I hope none of you are destitute because of this...

Posted by Guest on March 5th, 2009

Vicious self-serving rumor or the truth?

If Bear Creek Coffee has filed bankruptcy than you should post the a link to the matter or at least the name of the matter with entities so we can confirm your statement.

It not okay to make untrue statements even anonymously.

Posted by Guest on March 5th, 2009

Jeremie? Is that you?

Self serving how? By telling everyone on this thread I reduce my own chances of collecting anything, as BCC is obviously in a dire financial situation and lawsuit awards will be first come first serve - if anything at all comes from them. Is that you Jeremie? Could it be? Where's my money? If you aren't in bankruptcy now why does my lawyer believe you are? Why have you taken money from so many people and returned nothing to them for it? Why the excuses? Why are you in default of our summons? Did the tornado, flood, funeral & wedding all happen in the same week? Were there multiple tornados? Did your dog eat our contact addendum that said you'd return my money, with your signature on it?

Interesting that the website is sill up and you still appear to be taking money from people. You are a liar and a thief. The only thing that gives me comfort at night is the fact that you have to wake up and look in the mirror and know that you are a coward & a bottom feeding parasite. If this is indeed Jeremie Johnson, please put your laptop down (which I'm sure I at least partially paid for) and put your head in a blender.

Posted by Guest on March 5th, 2009

Re: BEAR CREEK IS IN PROCESS OF LIQUIDATING (PER MY LAYWER)

Our attorney is contacting Jeremie's attorney to confirm whether he is filing for bankruptcy. He/she is not optimistic about our recovering any of our money. We were also advised that if we wanted to file criminal charges we should contact the Hendricks County prosecutor -- but again, that it might not get us anywhere. (Just for fun, you can Google "Hendricks County Indiana," go to the county courthouse website, and look at the slew of lawsuits, including one from the Indiana Attorney General.)

Posted by Guest on March 5th, 2009

Re: BEAR CREEK IS IN PROCESS OF LIQUIDATING (PER MY LAYWER)

We have also lost a substantial amount of money (more than our deposit) and are interested in communicating. You can contact us at dumtid@msn.com.

Posted by Guest on March 5th, 2009

I am game

I know you and you know me. I am willing to pool together with you to go after Jeremie and his gang. Please get in touch with me.

Posted by Guest on March 6th, 2009

Bear Creek Coffee

We are another victim of BCC's tactics. We are interested in pooling resources. We are a vendor that supplied material to Bear Creek and are still awaiting payment. We found that the store owner has already paid for it, and has the merchandise. You can also contact us at americanlandandlog@acegroup.cc

Posted by Guest on March 6th, 2009

To last Bear Creek post

To the post with lawyer in D.C. area. Please contact me at your convenience, I would like to get together with you on this and discuss what is going on at our end. I think we can help each other.
ozzie801@hotmail.com

Posted by Guest on March 6th, 2009

I have been robbed by the thief Jeremie as well

I am interested in pooling with you D----. He took my money too, as you know. I will spend more to get him in jail if possible. He committed fraud, flat out.

Posted by Bear Creek Coffee Tampa Bay on March 7th, 2009

JEREMIE JOHNSON HAS COMMITTED FRAUD & WANT TO PUT HIM IN JAIL

Hello,

I, as well as other licensees I'm in regular contact with, have all had our money stolen from Jeremie. He's running a ponzi scheme and needs to be brought to justice. As much as I'd like to get my money back, more than anything, I want to see this crook, thief, and liar, put in jail. My concern is that he's got all of our money tied up in a Swiss bank account or something and is going to file bankruptcy, walk off into the sunset, and we'll never get him. All of us need to act fast and need to be contacting/working with the same legal/law enforcement people so we can get their attention and get them to do something. Please contact me ASAP and let me know what needs to be done. Look forward to your reply.

nwcoffee@charter.net

Posted by Guest on March 9th, 2009

Bear Creek Rip-Off

I am not sure that he has put any money away in a Swiss Bank, he has blown all of it. I am a vendor and got sucked into there lies as well. I think that Jeremie and Brian flew all over the country trying to act bigger than they were. They were always trying to show off how successful the company was and lying to the potential clients and to vendors.I know I will never see my money and neither will you. They are BROKE, the best thing for them is criminal charges so they will have a felony on there record and not be able to do this again.

Posted by Guest on March 9th, 2009