Public Discussion on David Reid Homes Franchise

I’ve been approached by a large group of David Reid Homes franchisees that allege the system is a disaster here in Australia as the franchisor expands into the US market.  David Reid Homes Crumble

There seems to be no argument that the homes themselves are a brilliant product.  But the Return On Investment appears to be a joke and the promised support is said to be non-existent.  As you can imagine this is not a low cost entry franchise and my contacts to date would have to be considered to be astute business investors.  The information already received suggests that the glitter of franchising a great product was confused with making money?

David Reid Homes has built a reputation that has earned building awards across the UK, New Zealand and Australia.  However; reports of growing numbers of David Reid franchise collapses are not difficult to find.

One of the offshoots to franchise collapse in the building industry is that the poor little folk sub-contractors always get screwed.  Builder Goes Bust

David Reid Homes is now looking for a new agent to operate its Hervey Bay business.

Donamic Enterprises director Mick Picton says the company went into voluntary administration because of a lack of support from David Reid Homes. Subbies Fuming

David Reid Homes franchise collapses and those on the verge are not limited to Queensland or Australia for that matter with research turning up similar disasters as far afield as New Zealand.  South Auckland Franchise Collapses

Home investors, contractors and franchisees appear to be suffering in great numbers while David Reid Homes expands its operation.  This seems to be just another franchise catastrophe that governments can and do ignore.  

Super FranWhack

Mr Solomon; it seems you can polish one and cover it with glitter - but this one still stinks to high heaven ....

Posted by Ray Borradale on August 27th, 2009

Franchising home building? Nah!

It is hard for me even to think there are people stupid enough to buy that - but then again - they bought Dagwood Sandwiches, and they will keep on practicing reverse alchemy - turning gold into shit.

Posted by RichardSolomon on August 27th, 2009

But wouldn't you think ... Nah!

OK; I get that governments ignore franchising disasters.  I get that they don't give a damn about contractors doing their ass. Home investors being burnt is not uncommon. But wouldn't you think that the combination of all those victims of any scam would hit a government nerve?  ...what am I thinking ... of course not.

Good on ya Minister Craig Emerson; keep up the good work ya jerk. Hello Prime Minister Kevin Rudd ... are you at home or a broad?   David Reid franchising in the US should be a hoot ...

Posted by Ray Borradale on August 27th, 2009

Good/Bad Investment vs. More/Less Government

Posted by Guest on August 27th, 2009

re: good/bad v. more/less

My comment, but apparently not logged in.

N. Bibby

Posted by Nick Bibby on August 27th, 2009

re; re good/bad vs moreless

But it sounded like someone really smart  ...

... just pulling your leg ....

Posted by Ray Borradale on August 28th, 2009

Looks like DR has breached

Looks like DR has breached his two Australian Master Franchise Directors and is stepping back in to sell some more franchises to unsuspecting victims with too much cash. US Master Franchisor may want to take note.

Posted by balibo on September 18th, 2009

David Reid Homes UK

I understand the UK have not signed a single contract despite operating for over 2 years. Surely someone needs to step in and bring this farce to an end? How can someone with no industry experience be expected to operate a business at very top of the market. It's a recipe for disaster (for the unsuspecting franchisee). The franchisor is laughing as they pick up royalties on turnover leaving the franchisee counting the cost as they lose money on each build they complete.

Posted by Guest on September 18th, 2009

David Reid Homes UK

If you want to know what is happening in the UK - I suggest you ask somebody from the UK. For your information DRH UK has successful trading franchisees, is building excellent properties and is a successful and trading business having come through the most vicious recession in almost 100 years. In the UK there are laws against scurrilous and untrue comments - its called libel. I suggest a degree of caution is used prior to publishing comments that are both untrue and unfounded.

Posted by Guest on September 18th, 2009

It’s in the DRH numbers

In only 7 years of franchising throughout New Zealand and Australia, David Reid Homes has built a franchise network of over 60 franchisees and is still growing. DRH UK

In Australia we have laws against deceptive and misleading advertising.  OK; they usually sit in neutral however; DRH had better gear up to re-write their websites. It will not be the first a franchisor has been forced to remove bullsiht.

‘DRH UK has successful trading franchisees’ – You are not sharing how many operate in the UK under an Australian franchise model that doesn’t work here but supposedly works in the UK.

The Australian DRH scam has claimed at least 16 of their 23 franchises and there are reports of similar results from NZ.  Home investors, sub-contractors and franchisees get burned and all because the sale of DRH franchises is made on the back of outrageous and fictitious financial performance claims. Libel me that anonymous master.

I suppose the seller of illegal drugs that kill people in one country could possibly be the righteous seller of bibles in another?  But I doubt it.

How many in the UK?  Based on the Australian evidence they had better have enough old money to survive at least the first 2 years and then it would be a ‘suck it and see’ proposition.  I must admit that we do not know how many have managed to get past that first hurdle and if there are any obviously we, as yet, don’t know exactly how the hell they did it and whether they will continue for long.  But we do know that the vast majority fail and the consequences have previously only found their way to ‘local’ print media. [Oh the times they are a changing]

‘The opportunities available are strictly limited – now is the time’.   Now is the time to run.

DRH build beautiful homes but that does not exclude it from being a FranWhack. There are any number of builders here that build similar and equally beautiful homes but that does not mean they are unique or that they can produce a franchise model that works – anywhere.

Prospective investors in David Reid Homes anywhere should consider McDonalds franchising. Maccas don’t exactly have a beautiful product but they have real selection that isn’t based on available funds to pursue bullsiht numbers and they have a franchise model that works.  The product has little to do with whether a franchisor is honest and whether the franchisee financial model delivers.  DRH is a recorded FranWhack.

Posted by Ray Borradale on September 18th, 2009

A US & UK DRH Disclosure Question?

Firstly my apologies to DRH.  I was not aware that in Australia following 'restructuring' the franchisee netywork is now down from 23 to ... wait for it ...... drum roll ....               4              and fragile

May I ask our US & UK friends; if litigation begins against DRH in one country would that have to be disclosed in another?   Obviously BMM readers would hear about such an occurance if ever it were to happen.

Posted by Ray Borradale on September 18th, 2009

David Reid is a super

David Reid is a super salesman and nothing else. He sucks everyone in with his promise of support and a successful system he developed. In reality, the system he developed almost went broke in New Zealand, and he was extremely lucky that some partners bought him out, and they quickly exited him. He still retains a %age of sales through his Cook Islands tax haven, which he uses spectacularly to ward off any potential legal battle.

He refused to return deposits paid by various Territory Franchisees in his foray into and failed David Reid Investments model in Australia. He unfairly sacked 2 Master Franchisees (one was his partner in David Reid Homes Australia).

Get involved in business with David Reid at your peril. He is all smoke and mirrors.

Posted by Ex-DRH Franchisee on January 28th, 2010

I don't know David Reid or

I don't know David Reid or whether he is a 'super salesman' or not. Most franchisors are considered to be great salespeople because they are or appear passionate. Those that try harder perform brilliantly on stage but they usually have to.

I do know David is a losuy franchisor with a franchisee financial model that doesn't work.

I don't care that David warned his Australian sub-franchisor not to provide financial projections. The idjit did and that remains today as evidence that David is a fool and the model sucks. I give David 9 for effort and 9 for sucks.

No one gets a 10 - we all have to strive harder hey Brad.

Posted by Ray Borradale on February 25th, 2011

DRH UK

Dear Mr Anon (Master)

Please explain what a 'successful franchise means' is it merely one that has been sold?

'Building excellent properties' - Show us one, just one and we will believe you.

If DRH is building excellant properties in the UK why are all the homes featured on their website built by the failed franchises in Australia & NZ?

Posted by Guest on September 18th, 2009

DRH UK

Interesting comment and I agree, can DRH UK indicate how many houses they have built in the last two years?
Where are they? Who are the franchisees? I would like to meet one who can show me these houses because I cant loacate one

Posted by Guest on December 20th, 2009

David Reid is a super

David Reid is a super salesman and nothing else. He sucks everyone in with his promise of support and a successful system he developed. In reality, the system he developed almost went broke in New Zealand, and he was extremely lucky that some partners bought him out, and they quickly exited him. He still retains a %age of sales through his Cook Islands tax haven, which he uses spectacularly to ward off any potential legal battle.

He refused to return deposits paid by various Territory Franchisees in his foray into and failed David Reid Investments model in Australia. He unfairly sacked 2 Master Franchisees (one was his partner in David Reid Homes Australia).

Get involved in business with David Reid at your peril. He is all smoke and mirrors.

Posted by Ex-DRH Franchisee on January 28th, 2010

Prove it, Mr. Pick. Where are

Prove it, Mr. Pick. Where are the properties. One franchisee building a home for himself is hardly a successful business and a franchisee in Ireland suing your ass. Company house not showing a successful business. Maybe they are telling lies.

Posted by Guest on April 21st, 2010

Mr Pick

Does anyone know the whereabouts of the elusive Mr Pick?

Posted by Guest on October 12th, 2011

Martin Pick

on November 29th, 2011

Hold on friend

This is one element of DRH franchising that does work.  This brand does not have to rely on big numbers of franchisees or master franchisees [sub-franchisors].  They always have something to re-sell. 

The craft is in selling what has failed miserably to anyone with enough bucks as the 'opportunity of a lifetime'.  Have you seen the toilets in a David Reid Home?  It seems that is where most end up.

Perhaps David and his US master should follow Mr Clean into Texas where 'the streets are paved with gold' and apparently golden suckers abound.  If such scams are to exist in the short-term why not just keep them in one place where people can afford to fold.  Although that would mean way too much fun for Richard.

Posted by Ray Borradale on September 18th, 2009

DRH would probably be judgment proof here. In all these

deals the USA franchise business would be set up as a minimally capitalized separate company. There would be a cut out between it and any affiliated company with appproachable assets. Suing them would probably be a waste of effort and resources.

One day people who do those things will encounter folks like me who hold due process in low regard in appropriate situations. People like us tend to use a lot of self help when it seems like the right thing to do. Too bad everyone doesn't think like that. Then the scammers wouldn't be so complacent about hiding behind legal formalities. Oh well!

Posted by RichardSolomon on September 18th, 2009

Is it any wonder

that franchisees are overwhelmed.  So many legal formalities to abide by or ignore depending on a financial ability to counter the consequences if there are any.  So many follow the drawn out etiquette of legal back and forth when real advice in many instances would be that they are most likely going to lose their ass or end up no better off.  And then there are those who do nothing when they should get expert advice and act on it.

Combinations of legal and non-legal strategies, personalities, intelligence and stupidity sometimes all get in the mix to make something complicated even more likely to be considered just too hard.

But it does not have to be. ‘Self help’ is usually but not always aligned to legal remedy and it is just a bloody process.  Just as bad franchisors anticipate any of the possible franchisee reactions; the process demands that same flexibility and an understanding of how these pieces of dirt operate and how to find their soft under belly.

Or perhaps this isn’t the ‘self help’ you refer to?

Anyway; back on topic. That makes sense Richard. 

DRH set up in the US with minimal investment and an escape hatch. In this instance the franchisor sets up high franchisee investments and vulnerability while the franchisor has the potential to reach massive royalties in the huge US market with a $2 outlay.  Who would have thought?

It could be another trans-continental disease when you consider home investors and sub-contractors coming into the US mix.  This scam is real genius.  You won't even see it coming ...    Has anyone heard a word about who the US master franchisee idjit is?

Posted by Ray Borradale on September 19th, 2009

David Reid has no substance

David Reid is a super salesman and nothing else. He sucks everyone in with his promise of support and a successful system he developed. In reality, the system he developed almost went broke in New Zealand, and he was extremely lucky that some partners bought him out, and they quickly exited him. He still retains a %age of sales through his Cook Islands tax haven, which he uses spectacularly to ward off any potential legal battle.

He refused to return deposits paid by various Territory Franchisees in his foray into and failed David Reid Investments model in Australia. He unfairly sacked 2 Master Franchisees (one was his partner in David Reid Homes Australia).

Get involved in business with David Reid at your peril. He is all smoke and mirrors.

Posted by Ex-DRH Franchisee on January 28th, 2010

David Reid Homes USA

Posted by Ray Borradale on August 28th, 2009

This is the best export you've got, Ray?

I identified here yesterday the reason why this lash-up would fall, but I didn't expect the franchisor to step up the next day and flat out prove my point with this promo piece. 

If this sells in the US then all 'franchise buyer beware' materials and programs need be buried, and BMM should be torn down due to lack of performance. 

Thankfully, I no longer have to be concerned with people choosing blinders over glasses.

 

Posted by Nick Bibby on August 28th, 2009

David Reid has fooled you.

David Reid is a super salesman and nothing else. He sucks everyone in with his promise of support and a successful system he developed. In reality, the system he developed almost went broke in New Zealand, and he was extremely lucky that some partners bought him out, and they quickly exited him. He still retains a %age of sales through his Cook Islands tax haven, which he uses spectacularly to ward off any potential legal battle.

He refused to return deposits paid by various Territory Franchisees in his foray into and failed David Reid Investments model in Australia. He unfairly sacked 2 Master Franchisees (one was his partner in David Reid Homes Australia).

Get involved in business with David Reid at your peril. He is all smoke and mirrors.

Posted by Ex-DRH Franchisee on January 28th, 2010

At the risk of boring repetition - the government is not your

parent. It does not protect investors - not in securities and not in franchising. After the fact losses may be redressed under the law - if the victim has financial resources to pay the lawyers for a few years' work and the predator has the resources to pay if the victim wins.

That is not protection for anyone under any circumstances.

You cannot do due diligence on an unfranchisable concept, except to have the experience and insight to recognize an obviously unfranchisable concept. Franchising the unfranchisable is a game crooks play on ignorant people. The game will never end. The government will never stop it. If you can't recognize an obvious fraud, and you don't hire someone who can to help you before you invest, you are really an accompliss to your own undoing.

This aint magic here. Being angry at government officials will get you nothing. You access the resources you need before you invest or you get skinned. Your call.

Posted by RichardSolomon on August 27th, 2009

And I agree

And I will keep sending that same message but I will keep telling government they are a pack of assholes because they play a part in the fraud because when they ignore that it exists  .... perception to the stupid is everything.

And I would really like to hear more from David Reid franchisees and especially if there are those contemplating an investment in the US?

Posted by Ray Borradale on August 27th, 2009

I would like to share with you the American experience in

telling the government it is an asshole. We did all that back in 1775. We called King George an asshole and much worse.

We learnt that the givernment couldn't care less that you believe it is an asshole (and that includes its various ministers).

Calling the government an asshole will accomplish nothing, and because of that I suggest you stop wasting your breath.

Only direct action changes asshole governments you hate into the asshole government you love. But you will - I absolutely guarantee - end up with another asshole government when all is said and done.

If franchise investors continue to risk everything on ignorant propositions, falsely believing that that is investing rather than gambling and that there is no difference between investing and gambling, refusing to access resources to prevent them from being cheated, you can't do anything about that by challenging the government.

Education - an all too slow process - is the only effective route to pre investment vetting. You can't educate franchise investors to become competent pre investment vetting specialists to do it for their once in a lifetime event. But you can educate them to buy expert pre investment vetting assistance.

Therefore, I suggest you consider you use your very wonderful intellect and energies in doing that rather than cursing the drunks, misfits and perverts who occupy the halls of government.

Posted by RichardSolomon on August 27th, 2009

Yes Richard; OK! .. I did forget

I did forget they were ‘misfits’ and yes I take your point. However [and you knew that was coming], while I agree that government isn’t to protect the stupid from being stupid; government is expected to provide and enforce deterrents for those that swindle the stupid.  Ya know; laws against stealing ain’t that much different exceptin we all more sophisticated in franchising so we don’t call it stealing.

David Reid Homes is another example of how Australian legislation and regulation and especially disclosure and access to justice is blatantly deficient.  This crap should have been addressed in parliament long before this.  Parliament you say?!!? Sounds stupid I know but when those within parliament that actually give a damn stand up then we at least see our ACCC cover their ass and pretend to make a difference.  Now that may not amount to much in the short term but if they get enough practice they might actually make a difference.

Yes due diligence is what it is really all about but what about those who find out the hard way that our disclosure regulation is crap?  How sad … too bad?  Not good enough!  The bastards can get off their asses and accept that ripping off ‘mum and dads’ just is not acceptable and they have a duty to at least acknowledge that what they have to work with ain’t working.

This siht ain’t good for anyone and it is definitely not good for the franchising industry, the reputation of quality franchising and in the long term it will have some level of detrimental effect on the economic value of franchising. Without change you either get another hundreds years of franchisees being screwed over or might just get big business running gubermints and then you get slaves and then you get quality of life determined by the lawyers that lay down the controls.  Even more than now …

Wasting my breath ... just starting ...

Posted by Ray Borradale on August 28th, 2009

Look out America - David Reid

David Reid Homes in Australia appears to be about to fizzle and fade.  Figures received suggest that the Australian network of high investment DRH franchises has dropped from 23 to 7 [possibly 6] and that doesn't include the collapses in other countries.  And then there are those on the brink. 

Someone suggested that the US has a level of disclosure that would make life difficult for such an operation.  I'm not seeing evidence of adequate disclosure here at BMM or is it only that franchisees don't bother?.

Posted by Ray Borradale on September 11th, 2009

Look out America - David Reid

In Australia there were 7 offices left according to their website which appears to have diappeared recently. However I have since been told the main office in Brisbane has deserted the group and that was owned by one of the Australian DRH directors! Shows how much faith they had in their own product. The word from the remaining franchisee's is that another 4 are about to walk. Then there were 3...

Posted by Guest on September 19th, 2009

I called

and I was advised that through the 'amalgamation' of franchises they are down to 4 franchisees with at least 3 in deep poo?

Posted by Ray Borradale on September 19th, 2009

American disclosure requirements won't protect anyone from

anything. Why do you think I have been screaming about killer due diligence a the only pre investment prophylactic to prevent financial disaster. Under American disclosure rules, claims about things that translate into financial advantages (only if true) and the realities of financial risks inherent in every franchise agreement provision are simply not decipherable by anyone who is doing this form themselves and who have no prior in depth experience vetting small business investments.

Anyone from Oz or elsewhere that is a FranWhack can freely come to America and suck in the FranWads here with the same ease with which they bilked you guys whilst you were waiting for your billi to boil.

Posted by RichardSolomon on September 21st, 2009

This is where they go wrong

Dew Diligence

They don’t see the pricks.

Posted by Ray Borradale on September 21st, 2009

David Reid Homes

An uninteresting one-sided take.
Have you ever considered that some of the franchisees or the previous DRH Australia Master Franchise holders may actually have been doing the wrong thing?
After all they are only human.
Why are you head-hunting Reid? ... sometimes it's not the model, it's the people!!!

Posted by Guest on June 4th, 2010

Nay not I

My reality is a little different. I have a lot more information, much of which was produced by DRH, that I haven’t published because it would point to particular franchisees and we don’t want that. Don't for one minute believe that franchisees in hindsight don't understand their part in their outcome.

Fact is I have no interest in the man at all and I can’t assist existing or past franchisees. But I can suggest an extremely high level of due diligence, and common sense, for anyone considering a DRH investment. The financial model I have is a joke particularly when combined with the misinformation swallowed by franchisees previously.

If DRH has a new financial model and a new sales pitch then stop stuttering and publish it.

Posted by Ray Borradale on June 4th, 2010

David Reid Homes

David Reid Homes Melbourne East would like to take this opportunity to advise all our current and future clients that we are still tracking well in the current financial market. We are a small office that is continually growing as we achieve success through all challenges that cross our path.

David Reid Homes Melbourne East continues to raise the standard in the Design and Build Industry. We are still trading and are not affected in any way by the closure of other David Reid Homes Offices located through out Australia. If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to email our office at tanyablees@davidreidhomes.com.au

Posted by Tanya Blees - Customer Relations Officer on September 21st, 2009

Tanya; wrong market

People wanting to build a home are unlikely to visit BMM.  People wanting to invest in a DRH franchise may.

Posted by Ray Borradale on September 21st, 2009

DRH Termination

It seems DRH’s termination of the Australian master franchisees instigated a lousy act where the masters redirected the DHR  .com and .com.au site to this blog.  It just goes to show us where the interest of franchisees sits while those investors do it tough.

The already reported fallout to home investors and sub-contractors could well be increased by such stupidity.  I had not been aware when I made my previous comment regarding traffic to BMM and appreciate that this problem has now been rectified albeit that the Australian website is now totally down.  Assholes!

On a lighter note; DHR has reserved its rights to sue me.  And I have reserved my right to chuckle and suggest they do their homework before they annoy me.

 

Posted by Ray Borradale on September 21st, 2009

Franchise Builder Pays Out

No! This is not David Reid Homes but it is about misrepresentation.  This one doesn’t involve a master franchisee.  

Given the level of risk in this type of franchise it would seem that the ACCC has been consoled yet again with not much more than a token.

This matter serves as a timely reminder to franchisors to ensure that promotional materials are accurate and truthful, and prospective franchisees are not misled. The consequences of misinformation and ill-informed people purchasing and entering any franchise are simply bad for business – for both the franchisor and the franchisee.

Franchise builder reviews practices after ACCC action

Now GJ Gardner move on to a God-damned stint at hard labour to undertake and to;

implement a number of corrective measures, including the review of its corporate materials, publishing corrective notices on its website and in a franchising magazine, and the establishment of a trade practices compliance program.

Meaning the franchisor will undertake an ACCC compliance ‘school’ suggesting it was all just a big mistake.  But the minions at the ACCC are pacified and that is all we care about.  Ww would not want them to fret over their inability to actually serve up a real deterrent.

I'm pleased that David Reid Homes haven't as yet faced similar trauma at the hands of a merciless ACCC.

All of Australian franchising is thankful that Minister Craig Emerson keeps Samuel on a tight leash.  Why the hell should the Rudd Australian government give a damn when home investors, sub-contractors and franchisees end up paying big time for a franchise scam?

 

Posted by Ray Borradale on October 1st, 2009

This is getting ugly

and it will make no long-term difference to franchisees or the 'model'.  I do so like where this is going.

Posted by Ray Borradale on October 14th, 2009

Any Potential Franchisee look at this

http://www.bsa.qld.gov.au/SearchForLicensee/ShowDetailPDF.aspx

I have a copy of a David Reid spread sheet showing as per the franchise code of conduct the first two years figures for an actual franchisee. I was told they were based on this couple who were the first Franchisees in Australia.

As you can see the most houses they built in a year was not 25 as per the David Reid figures that all potential Franchisees are told but 5.

If you want a Franchise try Subway you don't fork out for a showhome, staff and an office (approx $11,000 a month) for little return.

If any ex franchisees read this blog and are interested in a class action agaist David Reid, we would gladly join them.

Posted by peter M on October 16th, 2009

DRH;look at this

The PDF would not open so would it be possible to check the link or either email the PDF or suggest where at the website I could find it. [ozfranchising@hotmail.com]

 

Posted by Ray Borradale on October 16th, 2009

DRH Licensee Search

Go <a href="http://www.bsa.qld.gov.au/SearchForLicensee/ChooseLicenseeType.aspx?I=1…; target="_blank">here</a>

Click online license search

David Reid Homes (Gold Coast Northern)

Create Licensee's full history

Posted by peter M on October 16th, 2009

David Reid leaves franchisees with nothing but losses

David Reid is a super salesman and nothing else. He sucks everyone in with his promise of support and a successful system he developed. In reality, the system he developed almost went broke in New Zealand, and he was extremely lucky that some partners bought him out, and they quickly exited him. He still retains a %age of sales through his Cook Islands tax haven, which he uses spectacularly to ward off any potential legal battle.

He refused to return deposits paid by various Territory Franchisees in his foray into and failed David Reid Investments model in Australia. He unfairly sacked 2 Master Franchisees (one was his partner in David Reid Homes Australia).

Get involved in business with David Reid at your peril. He is all smoke and mirrors.

Posted by Ex-DRH Franchisee on January 28th, 2010

ireland

A bit disgruntled here in Ireland. May be interested in a class action

Posted by Guest on April 19th, 2010

David Reid

We were once franchisees and pulled out along with others after realising that there was serious non disclosure of the exact costs of running a franchise, the Territory Director didn't know that we need a builders license!! After we pulled out we got legal threats and DRH's lawyers tried very hard to intimidate us into signing an agreement to state that we would tell anyone who enquired that we left for personall reasons. We know others who signed this although we refused. So how many new franchises entered the agreement not knowing about the huge numbers who started a franchise and pulled out.

The figures they gave us "based on a real franchise" were made up. When we complained to the ACCC the lawyers letter from DRH came back pointing out the clause in the franchise which states that You couldn't take him on his word.

There was no support and the $200,000 franchise fee went entirely to David Reid, it didn't even pay for an office sign. . Any how we pulled out and consider ourselves very lucky - others haven't been so fortuneate

Posted by Guest on October 10th, 2009

Re: David Reid

According to David Reid Homes, David Reid Homes has nothing to do with David Reid Homes.  The misrepresentation of  the franchise model as something viable had nothing to do with him and the model and the misrepresentation belongs to those he sold it to.  If that makes sense to anyone could they please explain it to me.

Posted by Ray Borradale on October 10th, 2009